I read through the whole book and its helped my opening and middle game a ton! I usually get a number when I go out and even a first date. This has happened to me about 5 times this year. I get out on a first date, I try to get her comfortable (C1 / C2 Phase) by asking lots of questions and sharing some of my own funny stories. But then the date ends sometimes with, other times without a kiss. Then I never hear back from them. Call backs / emails, etc. go unanswered. Usually after I paid for an expensive meal too. I think I'm an AFC. Can anyone help?

1.) Never (note: NEVER) go somewhere expensive on a first date. How smart would it be to spend a lot of money on somebody you may wish to never see again?

2.) I didn't witness your dates, so I can't comment on what you're doing wrong specifically, but most first dates fail because people take the generic "first date" approach, which is to ask generic questions and tell generic stories. They're usually very nervous.

When I was 16, I went on my first serious date. My brother gave me advice that I'll never forget: treat her like she's already your girlfriend. Tease her, poke fun of her, have fun with her, touch her.

This is where most people go wrong. They think that they have to be more "sweet" when they first meet people; they have to hold back their personality. They're affraid to touch their date at all sometimes. Have you noticed that when you first meet people they're usually very sweet, but after about a week, you finally get to see their real personality? That's because they're hiding their personality until they feel comfortable to let it out.

Be more playful, Jay. If you follow the basic principles of seduction and aren't afraid to have FUN on a first date, you'll be gold, brother.

Instead of spending money on a date why donn't you just cook and you can eat at your place.
Taking her to an expensive place is just shocking since you are a member of this forum. That's what the community was made for so men like us can avoid paying for stuff to do with women.

If you buy an expensive meal, that communicates to her that you are expecting something in return, ie "now you owe me sex"

Don't pay for her. While I dont agree that the community was made for guys like us to avoid paying for stuff to do with women, you should only pay for expensive dinners on anniversaries, after much relations have taken place of course.

Roy makes a good point. Treat the girl like you already f*cked her, or shes your sisters friend or whatever. Just keep up the kino, and remember its her who's chasing you! KINO KINO KINO

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In that case, I think I might just be too nervous during the date. I had a date about a month ago. I picked her up, went to dinner and then came back to her place, then she actually invited me in! I was so nervous that I didn't want to screw up. She gave me a tour of her place and we chatted about the stuff in her place. She gave me a big hug as I left, then I called several times during the next week and never heard from her again... Shoot me now!

now if your K closing and she doesnt ring you back its because you havent built enough comfort. she needs to know you or shes going to feel like a slut the next mornin and associate the feeling with you. build some good comfort first.

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AND if your paying for the meal without much comfort her ASD will be rocket fueled. she is going to feel like you were tryin to buy her into bed.

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alright homie ill let you in on a lil dinner date trick ive been using for years. i dont remember exactly how i came up with it but it has definately been feild tested and ill tell you its gold.

in a family style restaurant like red robin (my go to first date lol), in the middle/end of your meal, she'll usually have to get up for something right (bathroom, phone call etc.) either your server will come by or flag him down, say something like "hey its her birthday, but shh she doesnt want anyone to know" when she sits back down just act normal, continue in conversation. a lil bit later the staff will come by and sing the happy birthday song to her, smile at her knowingly even laugh. when they leave you with the sunday start eating it with her, feed her a few spoonfills. she'll never forget this, it shows that your a fun guy, and she'll want more

also i never pay for the first date, and i wouldnt if i was you, unless all you get is drinks or something like that.

good luck

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lmfao dude i love that thanks

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I have to ask, where are you from?

I've never in my life e-mailed a girl after hanging out with her... Is this normal where your from?

-Dream

She works in the same place as me (in the US). We were emailing each other everday one-liners all day long. Email became our primary source of communication. I also have her number too, but never called her.

Question for you guys: You mentioned that I should treat her like my gf already, so describe to me how you treat your gf?

Hey - I posted a Lay Report this summer on my journal site and went into great detail about my entire date. I think it will help you a lot... read it and I'll answer any questions you have.

(Note: This lay report is very very raw. It is very detailed all the way up to and through sex. I figured it would be helpful to guys, so I did not censor it.)

Link here: http://pickupevolution.com/edge-pulled- ... in-flower/

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Nice article. Sounds like you moved your way pretty quickly with the latin girl. Great job!

As for me, I'm pretty much stuck in the LJBF mode with the email girl. She still emails me a daily basis, but now she's talking about other guys and such. I guess I'll turn her into a pawn to pick up other chicks...

sometimes you have to make your intent clear, like afterwards or after kino put on some lip balm and say for later and wink, works great for me