Had the most fun I've ever had sarging a couple of nights ago. I just completely owned a six set of beautiful women, and the social proof went off the radar. The funniest thing is that the F-Close came with someone who saw me in the set. Sorry about the lenght, I wanted to relive the night completely so had to write as much as I remembered. But on with the FR.

I went out with a female friend of mine who's a willing pivot. We've slept together in the past, but we're just friends now. So I go to the club, I'm feeling good, smile all around, say hi to a couple of people I know and meet up with my friend. We have fun, get a few drinks and then I see an AFC trying something that I would never dare to try: he tries to open a six set of women that are sitting in a booth that denies you any opportunity sit down and take control of the set. Can't hear what he said, but the girls just looked away and he walked off in defeat. I'm thinking that the set is unopenable, since the table has no seats on the side that is not against a wall, so you'll always look like you don't belong, and in order to sit, you pretty much have to be asked to.

Then I get seriously lucky. My pivot says that she knows one of the girls, and wants to go say hi. I say hi to everyone after my pivot introduces me as an actor (which I am) and says that they'd come see my show since it's really good (DHVing me nicely there, gotta love my pivot) and I'm instantly in with a simple hi. Then a quite drunken hot blonde opens me:

HBlonde: So, how do you know pivot?
sabro: We met in prison.
HBlonde: (looks at me in shock like she believes me)
sabro: wow, I can't believe you're this easy (laughter)
HBlonde: I'm not easy. (qualifying, IOI) If you stay with us for the night, you'll find out just how not-easy I am. (flirting, IOI)
sabro: Like you could resist me. (big smile)

At this point it seems like all of the girls have taken notice of my precence, but I think I need to get myself sitting in the power position, aka in the corner of the booth, surrounded by the girls, so I decide to try to get there.

sabro: Do you guys like magic?
girls: yeayeayea!
sabro: well, let me show you the coolest trick ever. Im going to need three assistants.

I first grab the HBlonde who shoved some IOIs and get her standing, and the two behind follow her when I tell them to. I get them facing away from the booth, and to close their eyes.

sabro: No peeking. That includes you too. (points to a beautiful brunette, who just became the target) You look like such a little devil, I don't trust you at all. (huge smile)

sabro: 1,2 (goes to the corner of the booth) 3! You can turn around now. (the most devilish smile I can pull off)
girls: heeeey, you took our seat, thief blablabla (all said kiddingly)
sabro: (to HBlonde) You told me you weren't easy, and look at that, for the second time I've had my way with you in just a couple of minutes.
HBlonde: (something about me being untrustworthy)
sabro: That's what you get when you hang out with us prison guys.
girls: hihihiii

So now I'm sitting in power position, I've got my most alpha body language in use, my hands are on the top of the sofa like seat, with girls under both of my hands, and it just feels natural. We talk random stuff, I neg just about everyone, my pivot gives me extra value by telling a story about new years where I kicked out a drug dealer from our cabin (someone had invited him not knowing who he was, there was like 15 of us staying in the cabin, 30 or so when there was a party) with out the guy ever realising what just happened (true story btw, huge DHV, protecting my friends, not resorting to violence, out smarting the guy)

sabro: ooooh, I like this song, let's go dance. (to the whole group, I'm an exellent dancer + I thought it would be the easiest way to isolate the target for a while)
HBredhead: wtf, none of the guys I know ever want to dance
sabro: well, I'm not like other guys, I'm awesome. (huge smile)
HBrunette(target): Yeah, right. (smiles like she thinks I am awesome)
sabro: let's go. (I garb the brunettes hand)
HBrunette: I'm not going, you guys go ahead, I'll watch the drinks.
sabro: You don't know what you're missing...
HBrunette: I really can't go.
sabro: why?
HBrunette: (points to her stomach like she's pregnant)
sabro: wooooooow, I could've never guessed. (inside I'm thinking wtf, why does it have to be the hottest one, gotta switch the target..) How far along are you?
HBrunette: 18 weeks.
sabro: wow, you don't look like it at all. You look great.
HBrunette: it must be the belt, it pops my boobs nicely. (plays with her tits)
sabro: wow, I should hang out with pregnent girls more ofthen, they're much more fun than the rest of you girls.
HBlonde: (shows her tits to me, I guess that's an IOI, prolly a shit test too, and yes she was drunk, and now the target too, as those were definetly some nice titties.)
sabro: Why am I not suprised that you have a nipple ring.. Ok, let's go dance. (If that isn't passing the shit test, I don't know what is)

So there I am, dancing with 4 hot girls (rest of them stayed to keep company to the pregnant girl) looking like a total alpha, and I'm getting some nice looks from the girls around us. Then a very drunk AFC comes dancing near the one of the girls, and she looks a bit uncomfortable, so I switch places and physically block him off, and the girls laugh. The guy doesn't take the hint though, and tries again. I siwtch places again, and look at the girls like "can you believe this loser" and the girls laugh. I pull the HBlonde closer and make her grind me for a while, and then push her away. She comes right back. We grind for a while longer, I kino escalate for a while, and then I tell her that she's being rude to the other girls by taking me all to herself and push her away and go dance with the other girls. She comes back and slaps me on the ass. I think I could K-close anytime now, maybe even take her home, but I'm enjoying the six set way too much to leave right now.

We go back to the booth, and the HBlonde goes in first, but let's me go back to my seat. While she's moving her legs out of the way, she does it in a weird way, one leg at a time, so she's kind of spreading her legs for me.

sabro: I just thought you were srpeading your legs for me.
HBlonde: Nope. Maybe next time.
sabro: (turns 360) Is this my lucky night?
HBlonde: Nope, not yet.
sabro: wow, you weren't kidding, you really aren't easy.
HBlonde: (laughs, then looks at me like this would be my lucky night after all)

I sit down for a while and I notice a couple of HBs standing a few feet away from us, looking at me (how could they not, I'm alone with 7 women, sitting in a total amog posture, the social proof is insane) and I just smile at them in a flirtatious manner, and the girls start giggling. At this point I'm in such a high, I prolly could've tried opening them with 'Wanna fuck?" Prolly wouldn't have worked, but I would've had the balls to do it.

So I pull the HBlonde closer to me and tell her that:

sabro: Your earrings look great, too bad they don't match your necklace.
HBlonde: Well the necklace is there just to make my boobs look better.
sabro: I saw your boobs earlier, I'm pretty sure they would look wonderful even without that hideous necklace.
HBlonde: (switches her pose even more towards me, puts her hand on my knee)
sabro: Would you like to kiss me?
HBlonde: Yes. (first time ever someone said yes to me! Mostly it's the I dunno)
Make out session.

And in front of her friends, the girl was pretty wild and drunk. While we're making out, her friends decide to go get drinks and ask the blonde if she wants to come along, she says she's good. So I'm left alone withe HBlonde and the pregnant girl. The HBlonde tries to make out with me again, but I say Not here, we can wait till later. (See what I did there, huh? ) She agrees.

Then two AFCs sit into our booth. They compliment on the HBlondes necklace (I laugh hysterically inside) and she just tells them to fuck off. This is where things go to shit. They don't listen. She starts to yell at them. They won't listen. I whisper into the AFCs ear that let me handle the PMS, they should just leave while they can, but they don't listent. HBlonde throws drinks at them. They don't even react. I smell trouble. HBlonde throws two glasses at them, the glasses break into millions of pieces and the guys arms are bleeding. Luckily there's a bouncer right there, and he throws the guys and HBlonde out right away. There goes my lay for the night, but it isn't like I would like anything to do with the psycho anymore anyways. I decide I need a drink.

I go find my pivot and the rest of the girls at the bar, they had seen what happened and we talked about it for a while. We talk some more and then an AFC tries to approach, but chickens out before his mout starts working. We laugh it off. Then the AFC approaches me.

AFC: Which one of these beautiful girls are you gonna take danicng?
sabro: I'm taking all of them.
AFC: That isn't fair, you need to take your pick.
sabro: Well life isn't fair. These are all my girlfriends, right girls? (They agree)
AFC: (shakes my hand and nods at me like saying "respect" and walks away)
sabro: That's one way to pick up. What are the odds of that working though?
girls: blablablabla for a while
AFC: (comes back) Man, you really should take one of them to dance, they should be dancing.
HBrunette #2: I'll dance with him.
sabro: ok.

We go dance. It's a slow song. In maybe 30seconds were making out. I haven't really even paid any attention to her in the 3 hours I was with the set. Maybe that was the thing. She was pretty hot enough though, with the cutest dimples. The makeout session got pretty heated quickly, and I decided to bounce. Too bad I couldn't take her to my place because I had guests over. So I just said that we should go to her place. She said she lived with her parents and would be too embarassed to take anyone there. Fuck. I decided to number close, and then I just kissed her goodbye. Might be a bit of buyer's remorse when I call her, remains to be seen.

So I was walking around the venue, trying to find my pivot, when one of the girls I flirted from away walks before me. Let's call her HBtits. You might guess why.

HBtits: So, what's the deal with you? (opening me + ackowldeding I'm different from all the other guys = huge IOI)
sabro: I guess I'm just so freaking gorgeus.
HBtits: Nah, that's not it.
sabro: wow, aren't you rude. I wonder why people even talk to you. (stare at her tits) I have a pretty good guess.
HBtits: It must be this. (Grabs my cock, I guess that's an IOI..)
sabro: (no effect, also no laughter, in a lower voice than usual, staring right in her eyes) You should buy me flowers first. (I grab her hand move it to my chest) Would you like to kiss me?
HBtits: I don't know... (All of a sudden she isn't aggressive anymore, she just seems like the 19yo that she is)
sabro: Let's find out. (She definetly did)

10 minutes later we're in a cab going to her place. Some very loose LMR (I don't usually do stuff like this, stopped my hand from going in to her panties at first, didn't even have to say anything, just made out for a while longer and I was allowed to escalate) Suprisingly good sex for a one night stand, twice during the night, once in the morning, and then I was asked to leave on some lame excuse about her roommate coming home soon. Too little game early on, what can you expect. She gave me her number though (didn't ask for it) so I guess I'll see if I can make her a fuck buddy. Would be a shame to lose access to those tits.

Wow that was awesome man. I love the "we meet in prison" haha. I need to find me a pivot.

Jeez, this makes me want to do club game. and yes i read the whole thing despite my ADD haha

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Awesome Awesome! You owned that place!

When you read posts like this one, you can't help it but to be inspired.
Awesome job man

Epic effort dude !

In short my friend. I'm stealing your gambit. I've included what I felt was most important and pointed out any mistakes. This will be my second opener as adapted to groups using the Pivot Method. Sorry, but this is just too good. Here it is adapted:

Pivot Gambit
Operation: F-Close Pivot Style!

1. I went out with a female friend of mine who's a willing pivot. We've slept together in the past, but we're just friends now. So I go to the club, 1.a I'm feeling good, smile all around, say hi to a couple of people I know and meet up with my friend. 1.b I'm thinking that the X set at the table is unopenable, since the table has no seats on the side that is not against a wall, so YOU'll always look like YOU don't belong, and in order to sit, YOU pretty much have to be asked to. (YOU MUST use the spell gambit here 2 open seamingly impossible sets & lock YOUrself in.)

2. Then I get seriously lucky. My pivot says that she knows one of the girls, and wants to go say hi. I say hi to everyone after my pivot introduces me as an musician (which I am: insert YOUr own trusim here.) and says that they'd come see my show since it's really good (DHVing me nicely there, gotta love my pivot) and I'm instantly in with a simple 'Hi'..

2.1. Then a quite drunken hb opens me: (This is the rarest most rewarding open YOU can hope to get. Almost NEVER happens.)

3. HB: So, how do YOU know pivot?
YOU: We met in prison. (Insert Gambit Here)
HB: (looks at me in shock like she believes me)
YOU: wow, I can't believe YOU're this easy (laughter)
HB: I'm not easy. (qualifying, IOI) If YOU stay with us for the night, YOU'll find out just how not-easy I am. (flirting, IOI)
YOU: Like YOU could resist me. (big smile) (Neg as much as possible. Rememember gambit, neg x3 to target while negging entire set as well.)

At this point it seems like all of the girls have taken notice of my presence, but I think I need to get myself sitting in the power position, aka in the corner of the booth, surrounded by the girls, so I decide to try to get there. (Always at the center of attention. Get it?)

YOU: Do YOU believe in magic?
girls: yeayeayea!
YOU: well, let me show YOU the coolest trick ever. Im going to need three assistants. (This is a form of the Spell Gambit Step 1 in action. Step 2 can only take place during target extraction. )

I first grab the HB who showed some IOIs and get her standing, and the two behind follow her when I tell them to. I get them facing away from the booth, and to close their eyes.

YOU: No peeking. That includes YOU too. (points to a beautiful brunette, who just became the target) YOU look like such a little devil, I don't trust YOU at all. (huge smile) (Notice: Still negging here. It's non-stop during sets.)

YOU: 1,2 (goes to the corner of the booth) 3! YOU can turn around now. (the most devilish smile I can pull off)
girls: heeeey, YOU took our seat, thief blablabla (all said kiddingly)
YOU: (to HB) YOU told me YOU weren't easy, and look at that, for the second time I've had my way with YOU in just a couple of minutes.
HB: (something about me being untrustworthy)
YOU: That's what YOU get when YOU hang out with us prison guys. (Keep in mind that by now you should be multi-threading group and target. It helps you seem even MORE interesting.)
girls: hihihiii

4. So now I'm sitting in power position, I've got my most alpha body language in use, my hands are on the top of the sofa like seat, with girls under both of my hands, and it just feels natural. We talk random stuff, I neg just about everyone, my pivot gives me extra value by telling a story about new years where I kicked out a drug dealer from our cabin (someone had invited him not knowing who he was, there was like 15 of us staying in the cabin, 30 or so when there was a party) with out the guy ever realising what just happened (true story btw, huge DHV, protecting my friends, not resorting to violence, out smarting the guy. Don't stop keep it coming! You can NEVER have enough DHV!)

5. (DHV is now established you belong there go AMOG! BONUS: Social proof is in effect.)
YOU: ooooh, I like this song, let's go dance. (to the whole group, I'm an exellent dancer + I thought it would be the easiest way to isolate the target for a while)
HBredhead: wtf, none of the guys I know ever want to dance
YOU: well, I'm not like other guys, I'm awesome. (Smile) (Rule NO.1 Be the exception. Be the pickup artitst.)
HBrunette(target): Yeah, right. (smiles like she thinks I am awesome)
YOU: let's go. (I garb the brunettes hand)
HBrunette: I'm not going, YOU guys go ahead, I'll watch the drinks.
YOU: YOU don't know what YOU're missing...
HBrunette: I really can't go.
YOU: why?
HBrunette: (points to her stomach like she's pregnant)
YOU: wooooooow, I could've never guessed. (inside I'm thinking wtf, why does it have to be the hottest one, gotta switch the target..) How far along are YOU?
HBrunette: 18 weeks.
YOU: wow, YOU don't look like it at all. YOU look great.
HBrunette: it must be the belt, it pops my boobs nicely. (plays with her tits)
YOU: wow, I should hang out with pregnent girls more ofthen, they're much more fun than the rest of YOU girls.
HB: (shows her tits to me, I guess that's an IOI, prolly a shit test too, and yes she was drunk, and now the target too, as those were definetly some nice titties.)
YOU: Why am I not suprised that YOU have a nipple ring.. Ok, let's go dance. (If that isn't passing the shit test, I don't know what is)

6. (You must disarm any obstacles [including the target if necessary] that may arise. Demonstrate DHV)
So there I am, dancing with X hot girls (rest of them stayed to keep company to the pregnant girl) looking like a total alpha, and I'm getting some nice looks from the girls around us. Then a very drunk AFC comes dancing near the one of the girls, and she looks a bit uncomfortable, so I switch places and physically block him off, and the girls laugh. The guy doesn't take the hint though, and tries again. I siwtch places again, and look at the girls like "can YOU believe this loser" and the girls laugh. I pull the HB closer and make her grind me for a while, and then push her away. She comes right back. We grind for a while longer, I kino escalate for a while, (Let's be honest. You gotta touch if you want her to touch you!) , and then I tell her that she's being rude to the other girls by taking me all to herself and push her away and go dance with the other girls. (Still negging.) She comes back and slaps me on the ass. I think I could K-close anytime now, maybe even take her home, but I'm enjoying the six set way too much to leave right now. (Big mistake here though. Always be willing to walk away!)

We go back to the booth, and the HB goes in first, but let's me go back to my seat. While she's moving her legs out of the way, she does it in a weird way, one leg at a time, so she's kind of spreading her legs for me.

YOU: I just thought YOU were srpeading YOUr legs for me.
HB: Nope. Maybe next time.
YOU: Is this my lucky night?
HB: Nope, not yet.
YOU: wow, YOU weren't kidding, YOU really aren't easy.
HB: (laughs, then looks at me like this would be my lucky night after all)

I sit down for a while and I notice a couple of HBs standing a few feet away from us, looking at me (how could they not, I'm alone with X women, sitting in a total amog posture, the social proof is insane) and I just smile at them in a flirtatious manner, and the girls start giggling. At this point I'm in such a high, I prolly could've tried opening them with 'Wanna fuck?" Prolly wouldn't have worked, but I would've had the balls to do it.

So I pull the HB closer to me and tell her that:

YOU: YOUr earrings look great, too bad they don't match YOUr necklace.
HB: Well the necklace is there just to make my boobs look better.
YOU: I saw YOUr boobs earlier, I'm pretty sure they would look wonderful even without that hideous necklace.
HB: (switches her pose even more towards me, puts her hand on my knee)
YOU: Would YOU like to kiss me? (Anchoring question. This is why you opened the set. Moment of truth.)
HB: Yes. Make out session.

7. (This is what Social Proof is all about. A woman wants what her friends want. Feed off of that.)
And in front of her friends, the girl was pretty wild and drunk. While we're making out, her friends decide to go get drinks and ask the blonde if she wants to come along, she says she's good. So I'm left alone withe HB and the pregnant girl. The HB tries to make out with me again, but I say Not here, we can wait till later. (See what I did there, huh? Target MUST earn your attention largely by showing an IOI.) She agrees. (See? IOI)

Then two AFCs sit into our booth. They compliment on the HBs necklace (I laugh hysterically inside) and she just tells them to fuck off. This is where things go to shit. They don't listen. She starts to yell at them. They won't listen. I whisper into the AFCs ear that let me handle the PMS, they should just leave while they can, but they don't listent. HB throws drinks at them. They don't even react. I smell trouble. HB throws two glasses at them, the glasses break into millions of pieces and the guys arms are bleeding. Luckily there's a bouncer right there, and he throws the guys and HB out right away. There goes my lay for the night, but it isn't like I would like anything to do with the psycho anymore anyways. I decide I need a drink. (Simply switch targets here. Now that you have the Platinum Ring of Social Proof you can have ANY girl in the house! An artist should never reveal his target to anyone not on his team. By doing so you can easily switch targets and maintain your Social Proof.)

I go find my pivot and the rest of the girls at the bar, they had seen what happened and we talked about it for a while. We talk some more and then an AFC tries to approach, but chickens out before his mout starts working. We laugh it off. Then the AFC approaches me.

AFC: Which one of these beautiful girls are YOU gonna take danicng?
YOU: I'm taking all of them.
AFC: That isn't fair, YOU need to take YOUr pick.
YOU: Well life isn't fair. These are all my girlfriends, right girls? (They agree)
AFC: (shakes my hand and nods at me like saying "respect" and walks away)
YOU: That's one way to pick up. What are the odds of that working though?
girls: blablablabla for a while
AFC: (comes back) Man, YOU really should take one of them to dance, they should be dancing.
HBrunette #2: I'll dance with him.
YOU: ok.

We go dance. It's a slow song. In maybe 30seconds were making out. I haven't really even paid any attention to her in the 3 hours I was with the set. Maybe that was the thing. She was pretty hot enough though, with the cutest dimples. The makeout session got pretty heated quickly, and I decided to bounce. (Bounce #2 is the announcement of intended target. Choose carefully.) Too bad I couldn't take her to my place because I had guests over. So I just said that we should go to her place. She said she lived with her parents and would be too embarassed to take anyone there. Fuck. I decided to number close, and then I just kissed her goodbye. (You choose where things go from here. Call or not it's up to you! How's that for a change? Ah, POWER! Something every man understands.)

So I was walking around the venue, trying to find my pivot, when one of the girls I flirted from away walks before me. Let's call her HBtits. YOU might guess why. (Social Proof should be working for you automatically by now.)

HBtits: So, what's the deal with YOU? (opening me + ackowldeding I'm different from all the other guys = huge IOI)
YOU: I guess I'm just so freaking gorgeus.
HBtits: Nah, that's not it.
YOU: wow, aren't YOU rude. I wonder why people even talk to YOU. (stare at her tits) I have a pretty good guess.
HBtits: It must be this. (Grabs my cock, I guess that's an IOI..)
YOU: (no effect, also no laughter, in a lower voice than usual, staring right in her eyes) YOU should buy me flowers first. (I grab her hand move it to my chest) Would YOU like to kiss me?
HBtits: I don't know... (All of a sudden she isn't aggressive anymore, she just seems like the 19yo that she is)
YOU: Let's find out. (She definetly did)

10 minutes later we're in a cab going to her place. Some very loose LMR (I don't usually do stuff like this, stopped my hand from going into her panties at first, didn't even have to say anything, just made out for a while longer and I was allowed to escalate) Suprisingly good sex for a one night stand, twice during the night, once in the morning, and then I was asked to leave on some lame excuse about her roommate coming home soon. Too little game early on, what can YOU expect. She gave me her number though (didn't ask for it) so I guess I'll see if I can make her a fuck buddy. Would be a shame to lose access to those tits. (Yes it would. Mission Accomplished.)

Let me know what you think. Please. I just got the book the Game and I'm only half way thru at this point, but I felt you did a great job. Where do you live? I live in Colorado. Maybe we can sarge sometime.

P.S. Looking for local wingmen. Not you Sabro. I think I can learn from you.

Thank you for the props everyone.

I'm glad if you can find some working gambits from that Azasn, since for me it was mostly a random sequence of things that occured when my inner game happened to be in top shape. There's basically no canned material there, execpt for mystery's kiss close, which is just brilliantly simple, but when your inner game is on check, you don't need any. Knowing the theory is much more important than actual material. Most of the days I do need them though.

I'm definetly keeping the "magic trick" in my pocket. I've never thought of doing that before, just wondered about how I could get them all out of their seat, and thought about the spinning gambit and improvised.

There's a couple of things that are just wrong about your commentary though.
you most definately can DHV too much. Then you'll either make them feel not worthy of you, or just look like jerk. But too much is way better than too little.
I just did. You need to demonstrate willingness to walk away from the target, not neccesarily from the set. Other people will notice it too though.
She definetly had earned my attention by IOIng, she was making out with me after all. What I did there was implying that we'd be leaving the together AND I was the one pulling ASD for her. I'm keeping that line too, that's so juicy. Prolly used by many before me though.

Rest of your commentary was spot on. Could've used quite a bit of shortening if you want to make it a gambit though.

Would love to sarge with you, as I definately am no mPUA and still have A LOT to learn to make nights like this regular. I live in finland though, so the distance is quite long. And remember that it's always too good to surround yourself with people better than you, so be a wingman to someone better than you, if they want to be yours. You will learn so much.

Any ideas on how to txt the HBrunette #2? I can't open normally with something we talked about, since we basically didn't talk. I can't bring up the dance since that will definately trigger ASD, plus the BT might've been too high at the time for a day 2 anyways. When your feeling this good, creating buyer's remorse is a real threat. So anyone got any "distracting" txt openers?

I opened HBtits with just a "So, I'm sleeping alone tonight, come keep me warm." Been a couple of hours, no answer. Knew it was a huge gamble, but since I wanted the girl for only one thing, and she seemed to enjoy it too, so why not try, eh? And at least I'm being honest!


My biggest flaw of the night was not building any comfort with anyone. So getting more than random sex out of the night might be kind of hard. But I guess I'll have to settle with that.

I'm barely to the middle of THE GAME. I feel like I'm learning alot. The parts I missed were prolly lack of field experience, but I feel it is its own gambit using pivots to lock-in the set. Get your pivot to move and the sheep will follow. That's why I think it works.

Shit I haven't even been to the field yet. I can approach and usually get by on my looks especially n da spanish bars coz I look like a Dominican DON OMAR to them. In american bars I play my looks off of REAL from the VH1 show Real Chance of Love. Just with shorter hair.

Thank You Sabro.
I will post with you in the future to get more of your insights.
Regardless of what others say including yourself you stepped
up and thought like a tru MPUA. You've got the goods and I
plan to pick your brain apart coz we think in similar ways.

lol thats awesome dude. I need to find a better pivot.

What a fantastic read, had me laughing out loud quite a few times! very inspired to get my ass out to a club now... unfortunatly, its sunday! anyway, a great read - keep on posting!

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