Hey guys Ive been in to this for a few months now. Ive been a bit slow getting over my approach anxiety (btw gamblers stuff has helped)

well I tried some stuff on this chick at the mall, if you dont mind critiquing me.

Well I was just about to leave and I saw her working at a kiosk selling earrings. I was battling my aa again so I finally went up
me- hry you look bored, well im gonna make you do some work

hb- ok

me- im looking for some earrings for my mom for christmas (not true, also this was after christmas) what do you think would be good for her?

hb- what does she like?

me- i dont know?

blah blah

so we start talking about gold, somewhere along she fixes her hair which i may have mistaken for an ioi

me- how much is this

hb- $

me- is this real?

hb- i dont know

me- what about your jewelry, where do you get those from?

hb- my family is from peru so i get them whenever family visits.

i built some kino by holdin her hand and looking at her rings, may have been counterproductive since i have a problem with biting my nails

some customers come so she tends to them, i head around to the other side of the kiosk and look at some other stuff. i stuck around for about 7 minutes then called her over again to check out more stuff.

me- what do you think about this?

hb- i dunno, what does she like? i dont think u should get her hoop earrings.

me- well maybe my mom likes to be a bit flamboyant at times (joke went wrong, she didnt laugh, maybe didnt take it as a joke)

so we continue talking about miscellaneous stuff. she had trouble opening the cases so i said i should get an employee discount for helping to train her, she said fine 15%.

i still thought it was too much so i asked for her hand and put it in thumb war position. i was getting ready to play and she complained she was bad, always loses, and people hurt her hand. (i was going to try to play it off into another bet and a follow up for a day 2)

i negged her a little about not hanging around nice people who seem to hurt her.

we then talked about a few other things and i asked her how she got a piece of jewelry, she said for her 18th birthday and i congratulated her and signaled for a high five, but with my hand low and palm facing up.

i got her name somewhere around here and asked her about what school she goes to.

i ended up lingering a bit and ask stupid questions about things i know my mom wouldn't want.

then she suggested i should get her clothes, i told her it was a bad idea for me to shop for clothes cause im a guy. i suggestdshe come with me next week to pick out something, then she suggested i take my mom, i insisted, she suggested i take my girlfriend. i said i dont have one, then she suggested i take a female friend.

i realized at this point i couldnt close any further so i thanked her for the conversation and left politely shaking her hand.












now for my retrospective-
I dlv'd too much

I did no bodyrocking, no ftc, and i smiled too much. also i answered my phone twice while talking to her.

at one point i brushed her hair aside to see her earring but the mood felt like i may have rushed the kino.

i repeated a bunch of dumb questions. also i think i could have used a few c&f remarks instead of always saying "i dont know."

also the lingering while she was helping a customer was bad on my part, i should have left and came back later. the overall set may have been about 20 minutes.

i shouldv tried to initiate a different game when she refused thumb war, i thought of tic tac toe, but i had no paper and pen. i now realize she did, damn me.

i negged her a few times about not smiling enough, she definitely seemed a bit warmer in the end, but im sure she realised at a certain point i was no longer a customer and came with a purpose.

also my repetitive close attempts were bad on my part, then leaving after being shut out made it look worse. i did tell her i was about to leave to orlando so maybe it didnt seem like i was a jerk just there for the number.

if i ever go back to talk to her ill just make short banter and maybe neg about her thumbwarphobia. i wanted to hug close then tease her about a crappy hug but the SPAM didnt feel right.

if you guys read this far u all rock, thanks for any input.

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Sounds like you lingered wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too long on your open.

Day game should be very direct. "Wow I'll take _____ into consideration! You know, there was another reason I came over here. [sincere compliment], and I would've hated myself if I didn't at least come over and say hi."

The reason day game is more direct is because at clubs, girls automatically assume you're talking to them to hit on them, and during the day, they will most likely perceive your inquiries as genuinely needing assistance, and classify everything else as friendly banter.

During the day, you HAVE to make your motive clear. You wanted to talk to her because you were attracted to something about her (if she's HB7+, do NOT comment on her physical beauty). Apply negs IF she puts up a b-shield, but otherwise be sincerely nice.

Thanks a lot bro. Id give her at least an 8. Im used to studying club game, i need to go over the course i have about day game.

i see so i should have dropped the ioi sooner and complimented her about her energy or maybe even the rings she was wearin.

honestly im proud im geting over my anxiety. all the things ive learned are useless without application. im not really a club person but maybe ill go a couple times. i introduced a few guys at work to the game, theyre a few years younger than me but maybe ill take them sargin some time.

i failed in the end but its helping me realise failure is a natural part of the game, u dont win everything.

do girls who are working somewhere like when guys hit on them. i have heard that girls casually walkin in the mall just love to be approached by confident guys. well i got some hypotica stuff to work on my inner game.

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The thing with the game is, you NEVER, EVER, EVER fail!

The absolute worst case scenario is that you don't get the exact outcome you were looking for, and you have mistakes you can learn from.



I got over my AA by doing this: I went to the mall, I started conversation with 5 people *minimum*. It didn't matter if they were old, young, ugly, fine, male, or female. Most of the time, I had a decent open, but I used a couple of totally off-the-wall topics a few times just to see if I could get someone to be outright rude to me. (I couldn't)

The next day, I did the same thing, except this time, I made a point to remember their eye color. Looking people in the eyes when you talk to them gives you huge insight into how they might respond, and it shows respect and confidence. That particular time, I went out on the town, and talked to upward of 50-60 different people. (A little liquid courage helped.)



Do whatever works for you, but just remember, unless you approach someone who's visibly pissed off, the likelihood of someone outright rejecting you or being rude is pretty much nil.

thanks for the advice. i need to try the starting convos thing. i need to try not to focus on a close in the bginning and just get over my aa.

well i guess i didnt fail, just got to know someone new. and i have learned a lot just from that, i finally understand my faults in my game. i think it was a big step for me. also im beginning to understan the difference between day and night aproaches.

i dont drink, but ill just have to dig deeper for my courage, clutch my nuts and dive in

i need to try winging some time, get some other people's opinions.

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Nonono! DO focus on the close - even though you're just trying to overcome your AA! There needs to be a bona fide reason you're talking to them!

Try to go as far as you can, and you'll learn more faster. On the other hand, don't push things too far. For example, don't try to k-close if the connection just isn't there.

Go into every set with a f-close in mind!

thanks again man. i need to keep the game on at all times. i wanted to try for a # close, which i was leading to when asking her to go shopping with me, but she told me to ask other people which was an iod so i didnt bother.

i need to try some more cold approaches in the mall to work on my aa, but i should proly just do convos a bit first.

on the bright side i gamed a chick i worked with, but shes too young (legally) and not really my type, but ive got her number and i could set up a date with no problem. we closed at work for two nights alone and we have a very playful relationship, but thats a whole nother story

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yeah one time i approached this chick
and was like hey nice watch where'd you get it?
shes like what watch?


I grabbed her by the wrist and said gimme your number okay? lf you want me to let you go!

And she didn't scream rape?

j/k, I can see it working if you do it just right.
Not sure I follow... when you walk up to someone, open your mouth, and sound comes out, that's an approach.

well charlie, i meant more approaches with aiming for a number close or another type of close.

i feel maybe i should start random convos just to get used to social interactions first though.

well im reviewing some hypnotica material now, trying to stengthen my inner game.

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