The way RSD uses the term, it's a "glimmer" that people in really good state get. They're super happy, and the happiness manifests itself on the outside. It's a "glow." I believe Style called it "seducer's aura" once.

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Exactly. I agree with Sean in the sense that this jargon can be a little dehumanizing, and for some reason certain people really take offense to it. But the pros definitely outweigh the cons. First off, the jargon gives us common terms to efficiently communicate, being in the military myself, I know this helps streamline communication and is necessary. Secondly, it helps turn this whole thing into a game, and raises the comfort level of the discussion. Things would definitely be a little more awkward if we had no slang or acronyms here. The key is to keep it where it belongs, and don't be a damned robot about it.

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I don't buy it.

There are literally MILLIONS of guys who go out together and talk about what they need to do to go pick up cute girls AND use normal words to discuss it.

You don't need some code. I mean, fuck, if I'm at a bar with a buddy, and two hot girls come and stand right next to us, all I need to do is look at him, or say, "dude, hotties. let's do this."

The more you have to TALK about what you are going to do, the harder it is to do it. I've taught so many students who wanted to go over each step before approaching, and every time they planned it, they froze up. BUT... if i told them nothing, or just told them one opening line to say (and they paid attention while practicing in class before), they did great.

Just my experience. You can take it, or just throw it right back.

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Jargon tends to be bullshit and isolationist. It gives the sense that "oh, if you don't know what I'm referring to, you must be out of the know." Instead of creating an elitist SPAM, where others want to be in the know, they're very happy leaving you in the know, all by yourself.

Being an artist and a musician and one who sees more that physical appearances and appreciates art and beauty, let alone natural at social interaction, there is nothing I hate more than somebody putting a number on a person and their looks or attractiveness: HB-whatever, whatever. That's my biggest complaint about this entire community. There's nothing wrong with helping others with social situations involving women, but when I see the whole rating system going on, it makes me sick more or less. Have standards, either the girl is a Yes (1) or a No (0). Know what you want! And looks aren't always the most important thing but they must be there for the initial attraction. Look into the person before you dare give them any rating, less you be shallow.

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I wonder how the average PUA would like to find out women refer to him as an AFC6?

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Well to sum it all up ( I think the subject may have gotten off topic a bit) The difference between an AFC and a Natural is that the natural doesnt give a shit, unlike the AFC who cant stand getting rejected. Hell if you were good looking would you care if you got rejected? No you wouldnt, because YOUR FUCKING GOOD LOOKING!!! you can get any girl you want and if one does happen to reject you its her lost while you can just go and attract another girl so basically a natural never looses. Sure there are cases were naturals turn into AFCs but those are rare, but yeah basically its all about having a dont give a shit attitude, thats what makes a natural although there is alot more to it than that but stuff like this is kinda hard to explain.
(not saying that all naturals are good looking by the way).

hahahahahahaha
that's funny shit right there

i hang out with girls who do rate guys on a scale from 1-10
they learned it from hearing me talk about girls though...
but still, girls rate guys too and a lot of PUA's feelings would be hurt if they found out, like sean said

I was one before the community. Most of the naturals I know including myself tend to be very masculine males aka alpha. I used to say things to girls like "where's your off button?" before I read mysteries book. I was also a master of teasing and banter. I personally think the reason why most dudes have trouble with women is because at a early age they tend to deal more with other guys and don't socialize and get a understanding of girls. Growing up when I was little my best friend was a girl and I owe a lot of the reason I had charm to her.