I'm 19 and never had a girlfriend before.. I just wanted to let people know that and ask what they think...this is probably why it's harder for me to gain confidence because I never had a gf before..

start from the ground up 6s to 7's and higher and higher as u build skills maybe?

who gives a fuck dude...Ur still you...nothing has changed..confidence doesn't come from what you have or don't have. It comes to what you feel for yourself. If you truly love yourself and accept your imperfections then that is confidence. You judge yourself not others. When you ask what we think you are letting us shape your world. Sure some of us will help you but if you depend on us all the time then your letting us control your results.

WHO GIVES A FUCK!

There is nothing more powerful in this world then believing in yourself!

aint important what we think, its what you think.

think of all the chumps twice your age who wont even admit theyve never had a gf, undoubtedly you will

honestly, ive never had a gf before either, who gives a fuck i still meet a lot of girls and get laid but having a GF is overrated so dont think of it as a bad thing, think of it as not having to deal with all that girlfriend immature drama, just date around dont expect anythign serious, and dont want anything serious, when you find the right girl (and when i find the right girl) then it will happen on its own

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I like vagina.

Man, when I started high school one of my new class mates had never even kissed a girl. He had an awsome personality and is today still my best bud.. One year later when we had hung around for a while, he had built up some confidence i took him to a friends party where I hooked him up with a HB8. They slept that night (so he has me to thank for the lost of his virginity) and ended up as a couple...

Just work on your confidence and if you have a good personality babes will start to notice.

Peace Out!

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"Women love us for our defects. If we have enough of them, they will forgive us everything, even our intellects." - Oscar Wilde

Material world accomplishments and possessions such as nice cars, lots of money, numerous girlfriends, etc. should in no way be where you derive your confidence from. Your confidence should stem directly from within, its your ability to have faith in yourself. Not the measurement of how other people perceive you or think about you.

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Amor est Vitae Essentia

Relationships are socially constructed things. It's society's way of keeping things like sex and the likes in a box. If it's 2 people are in a relationship, then it's perceived that they can have close relations. I have a friend whom I'm been hanging with a fair bit, and people at school keep asking why me and her aren't a 'couple'. Why, I ask them. Why do you feel the need for us to be in a relationship? It seems to be everyone else's view that forces people into relationships. I realise I kinda just babbled there but to answer your question: Don't care. It doesn't matter. Your not missing out on anything about from having to call a girl all the time, and being tired down with a mass load of commitment.

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i like this quote....*smirks*
the best place to have it






edited???? nah... i didnt edit it. i swear!!!

Well said Methuselah "confidence should stem directly from within, its your ability to have faith in yourself. Not the measurement of how other people perceive you or think about you."

I think whats going on here is that kvee is associating having a "gf" as having "experience" with women. Or is one of those guys that believes a "Gf" is a symbol or reward for being good with women.

If that should be the case let me clarify that for you. Most guys who have a gf usually end up losing confidence, gain bad experiences and become AFC. It just expends alot of their time, energy, sometimes money and makes them more vulnerable.

If you lack confidence and get a gf Its alot of stress!

You lacking a gf is not the real reason for a lack of confidence and it should never be.. maybe the lack of experience with women.. For example when your learning to drive a car You dont lack confidence from not having your own car to drive but You lack confidence from not knowing how to drive or not having enough experience with driving... once your driving you gain the valueable experience and improve your confidence with driving the same with women forget the gf thing for now address the confidence first and gain the experience.

what meth said....

Yes. Meth got the confidence issue down.
Ill add that I have never had a real girlfriend. (well admittedly there was the whole, lets be bf and gf so we can hold hands together deal back in early high school, but thats besides the point). But that does not stop me being recognised among numerous groups of people as a player.
People ask me when my last girlfriend was I reply with 'back in year 7. We held hands and went to the movies and all!'.
Because I get on very well with many women and almost constantly getting friendly with someone different people assume that I could have one but don't want to settle with what comes my way so easily.
This increases prizeability and is a DHV.
A girlfriend is merely a part of your life where you are only adding one notch to the belt in a certain time frame when you could be adding many more.

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Well said Giacomo

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I am bound to add that the excess in too little has ever proved in me more dangerous than the excess in too much; the last may cause indigestion, but the first causes death.
-Giacomo Casanova

Yo Kvee, I might be wrong, and correct me if I am, but for you to ask that means that you are not strictly sarging for power or to get laid, right?

Well, if that is the case, I suggest reading up on Juggler's method. His method can show a lot regarding emotional attachments and getting girls to like you as opposed to just sleeping with you.

And not to give you the wrong idea of the community, how many notches you have in your belt is impressive, yes, but if you choose to come out of this community with a steady (and hot) girlfriend who will make you happy, then I will be equally impressed.

Being a PUA is about making yourself happy. For some, it is getting with the hottest chick in a bar. For others, it is finding a girlfriend. If you have read The Game, remember Sweater? He signed up for Mystery's workshop in order to find and meet a wife.

Now, don't worry about anything. That is key. You can't worry about your looks, the environment, if you get shut down, etc. The key to confidence is your outlook. Just don't care. If you don't care about getting hurt or what you look like, you will run into each sarge open armed in hopes to get a little action out of it. I have known some pretty ugly PUA's and they have gotten with way more girls than me. It is all about how you see the situation. I don't care if you have to stand in front of a mirror for 3 hours telling yourself how awesome you are. Do it.

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-Love, Charity, and Esteem-

I think Apollo's intentions are good but it must be noted that you should always look your sexiest and be in a good sarging environment. Just don't worry about what other people think of you within this.
Every PUA should have style, pizzazz and be in reasonably good shape. Of course there are exceptions. Just make yourself look as good as possible. Get help if needed to achieve this.

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