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and i continue to disagree that its not about "giving value" as in creating value. it is a slightly different concept.
i think that my theory entails more than giving value.
so you could say PVG theory is a broader approach to life whereas giving value is a PUA term. i am not a PUA and i am saying this as a philosophy more than a PUA technique
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lets sum this whole thing up:
"Giving Value" PUA Term = offering the woman a great time and feelings to get that woman
"Positive Value Giving" PVG = creating/generating value around you so to reap the benefits later.
maybe the misunderstanding is because of the abbreviation.
It should be more like Positive Value Creation than Giving
Dude..Chief covered it already, I'm just going hit is home. Everything your talking about is just putting words to something which is going happen regardless..
If you offer great feelings & a fun time, your obviously going get something back for that. Its just reciprocal. As well...giving an awesome/fun time is value in itself...you don't need to create it.