First, the cliffes (i.e. the short version of the story)

-Girl I've known for a long time has completely friendzoned me. She used to be attracted to me, but I failed all her shit tests and acted a wuss around her and she got back with her ex a few months ago and I abandoned her.

-The other day she pressured me into meeting up with her to try and make nice with me again (no more boyfriend), but she made it clear that she was only interested in friendship.

-So she was explaining her feelings to me, I was being cocky and pissing her off a bunch, then just for kicks I said "what is it that makes you get incredibly turned on." and in a minute she was on my lap making out with me.

-I tried OMS and it didn't do anything.

-I used that same embedded command again (different weasel phrase) and she was all over me, super wet, and we were running around the park trying to find a private spot (never found one though). She actually complained about me turning her on too much. So much for being friends!

I posted this because it doesn't seem like anybody else here has ever used this stuff in seduction before, or if they have, they've never shared their experiences. So now I'm asking for the more experienced NLP/Speed Seduction users here to share their experiences and possibly throw in some advice on what else I could do, or what I could have or should have done.

Now the long version (in case the details are important):

So there's this kinda weird girl who I was hanging out with for awhile and we were into each other. I've known her for 6 years. She's pretty cool, but she's also a bit weird in that she has insecurity issues and can't figure out what she wants. She still lives with her ex bf, as well, so we weren't having a real relationship until she moves out. I made a thread about her awhile back, called "Strange LMR from a friend girl." We have a strange history together. We had done some sexual stuff together (pretty much everything besides actual fucking), but at some point she made it clear that I was completely friendzoned (I didn't know about game yet, so naturally I failed all her shit tests and was too nice to her). She got back with her ex a few weeks later because she saw him with another girl (I know, what a shallow bitch) and I abandoned her, and didnt speak to her again, even after she re-dumped him. Then just the other day I agreed to meet up with her again because she told me a lot about how much she missed me, and had felt close to me, and she was very very sorry. I wasn't buying any of her excuses or explanations, and I made that clear to her. She kept bitching about how cocky I was, and she seemed to make it clear that she only wanted friendship from me.

Then she wanted to go somewhere else, so I made her drive us to a nearby park where we hung out there to talk some more. I thought "fuck it, I don't really like her as a person but I'm still attracted to her, so I'll just try out some of this really creepy stuff."

I asked "What is it that makes you GET INCREDIBLY TURNED ON." She didn't want to tell me, but within a few minutes she was on my lap making out with me and groping me (yeah, so much for friends!). Then we played around a bit and I tried using the October Man bit on her but it did fuck all. First off, she couldn't get herself to imagine the "greatest feeling," and when I did the energy ball thing she just sorta didn't get it. When I was done she was like "uh so what was that for?" I dunno, I guess I did it wrong somehow. But she confessed that she wasn't very good at paying attention. Then we ran around the woods searching for a secluded spot (there was a road on one side and houses on the other, so there was really nothing) and I asked another question that included that embedded command "get incredibly turned on" and she was all over me again. She got real really wet and I teased her with my fingers a whole bunch, and she complained about how I was getting her too riled up, but also made some comment like "its funny, it feels like we're friends, but not really..." and didn't want to finish it.

At around 9pm we left to go get sandwiches. I didn't fuck her, but I would like to think that it was only because of the complete lack of privacy where we were (she kept complaining about every car that went by). In the car on the way back she admitted to being extremely horny. When she dropped me off at my car, she said "So, are we friends again?" and I just said "Maybe" and gave her a cheek kiss goodbye. No, I still don't like her as a person but I'm still attracted to her and I think she'd make a good practice dummy.

Anyway, it seems like nobody here ever uses NLP seduction techniques AT ALL, or if they do, they never bother sharing their experiences. So I thought I might as well share this little tidbit. I'd like it if someone else here who has more experience in this stuff than me could give me some advice on some other things to do, or what I could have or should have done, or share his own experiences.

I guess nobody uses this section anymore.

Is there a forum that's specifically for NLP Seduction? Or at least a Seduction forum in which people actually post on the NLP Seduction section?

People still use this section. You just can't expect a response right away. I tend to be one of the more active ones in here, and I was out and about all weekend.

As far as Speed Seduction goes, Chief is probably your best bet for advice. He's got the know in that area.

As far as people using NLP / SS in PUA... We do. I don't really write up field reports, because I feel that what I do is my business. No need to brag about any of it. Other people write up field reports all the time though. Check out the "Field Reports" section...

For advice, don't fuck around with the October Man, especially if you don' quite know how it works. It's pretty advanced NLP, and you should know the basics of NLP, and how to put them into practice, before attempting something like the October Man.

As for other advice, I probally won't give you any. You're not trying to learn about NLP / SS for the right reasons, which is why we generally don't give out advice in the open forums. And I quote:

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I'm pretty sure the whole point of posting in the Field Reports section is for learning and teaching, not just bragging. When I check the Field Reports section there is not even one example of success stories with NLP. So you use it successfully, but you can't produce any actual anecdotes of it because you "don't want to brag?"
I was half kidding about that part. Nobody's using a human being as a practice dummy. And how would you know about my reasons? Just from that one quote? I'm learning it for the same reason as anyone else here, including you. I don't know what you're even talking about. What "wrong reasons" are you imagining? I'm not trying to become an irresponsible, selfish and manipulative prick with it, if that's what you're thinking. I just want to get better at this material so that I can actually use it on a woman who I'm genuinely interested in and get consistent results. You get me now? I'm sorry if I came off the wrong way the first time around.

That is the idea behind that section. I don't personally believe that it helps out at all, which is why I don't contribute to it. Everything is situational, and I don't feel that reading a report on someone else's experience will really benefit me.

As for producing an anecdote of my use of NLP in-field, I'm more than capable of it. Would you like to hear about my first stalker? How about the girl I've a restraining order against? How about the one who sees a psychologist twice weekly right now? Those were the early days, when I was just "trying to learn." It's also what I'm trying to prevent other people from accidentally doing.

There's also the fact that once you do have NLP / SS down, it's not any more effective than other PUA methods. (in my opinion. there are others who will argue against me on this. whatever) It's just as easy to go out and pull a girl with the "modern standard" PUA methods. So why take the risk of psychological damage?
Unfortunately, all I have to judge you by is what you say. And there have been people in the past just interested in themselves, and what it could do for numero uno (themselves).

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You mean when you were new to it, you made a bunch of girls go crazy? I didn't know that it was possible to do damage like that. In that case, you probably should report on those stories and detail the things you did so that others (including me) will know what to look out for and what to avoid doing. I would not feel good about myself with emotional blood on my hands.
I'm a musician and a writer, so influencing people's emotions and turning women on emotionally is something that I've already been doing before. I think I'm more talented at doing it through those means than I could ever be through being C&F or the king of the party. Therefore, NLP / SS seems to be closer to my style and my accessibility than what my "alpha male" buddies do. I've learned a lot from DYD and MM, but some of the specific things they tell you to do just aren't for me. I also get more enjoyment from having emotionally stimulating conversations with women and being real with them than I do from verbally humiliating them with C&F remarks and negs (although I still use those a bit). I don't wish to turn women into obsessive sex slaves, I want to learn how to take them on an emotional and sexual journey in a way that nobody else can (or at least not that many other people can).

So anyway...do you think my usage of that embedded command is what made that girl do that?

Negs and humiliation are not necessities when practicing Pick up. They are merely tools based on theory. Negs are there to disqualify yourself. There are other ways of doing that that are just as effective.

Its possible that the embedded command did that. Its not very likely though. One embedded command is rarely ever going to bring about the effect you described. You did say though, that you were being "Alpha." If I had to guess, it was this, not your embedded command, that brought about this behavior.

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I would say that the embed had a little to do with it but unless she's a somnambulist it prolly wasn't the onlt factor.
I have been using NLP/SS since the early days of this community and I haven't psychologically damaged anyone and though there have been some obsessions I have not created any long term stalkers.
The stuff works great, but it's hard to master. I am not sure if it works better than MM because I, like you, don't like negs much and neither do I like too much DHV- sure I use both a little sometimes in certain situations but negs are usually not necessarry and DHVs can seem like bragging even if you are really subtle. Plus I'm a writer/musicain myself and I see where you're coming from. If I get time I'll post some FRs from another list.

I have read Ross Jeffries SS and all that but I honestly dont get it. If I were to say something like "What gets you incredebly turned on?" Wont that just get me slapped? Like for them to be like "its none of your business" type stuff?

I assume if it does work you cant just go up to somone and say it, I would assume you would need to build rapport.

Is it just me or is anyone else wanting to know what happened in those few minutes?

Do tell!

I use nlp but am yet to use it for seduction. I used an embedded command on someone and they seemed to pause for like a second and do what the embedded command said.
What i keep getting amazed by is the fact that they don't realize that you have amplified your voice slightly.The first time it worked i felt absolutely incredible.

yea i tried it once with some interesting (but real) results but im actully doing the whole emmersion learning for nlp/nlp seduction .... i dont need to worry aboute money for a a year or so there for i can spend alot of time working on these teqnieks . the thing i like aboute nlp seduction is its more nlp persuasion and can be used in other situations besides woman.

Yes, please do! I think that's the part of your "long story" that you should elaborate on.

Well, I don't remember exactly, but I think I kept busting on her for a few more minutes, then she "got angry" (or pretended to) and got up from the bench and started to walk away. I thought she was actually leaving (or pretending to), but I guess she was actually just checking to make sure nobody was around, because after about 15 feet she just turned around and came back, then plopped down on my lap and began to perform the aforementioned activities.

PS. I ended up f-closing her later, and I used some more embedded commands on her during foreplay.