I just watched a David Deangelo program where he talked about how theres two types of pua's. theres the type that go out and get 20 numbers and convert those to dates over the next month and then theres the type that meet a girl and take her home the same night. I've always been good at opening, comfort building and nailing a chick on the first night. but recently i decided i want to improve my success with numbers and dates so i could really get to know the girl and add her to one of my MLTR's (multi long term relationships). The only problem is i have a sticking point of getting girls out a second or third time. i normally make such a good impression at the meeting that she goes out with me after that regaurdless what i say on the phone. but when it comes to getting them out again and again I constantly get flaked on. Now sometimes shit comes up with a women and she has to cancel. i understand that but theres a trend here that im noticing . not just a bunch of good excuses. I dont know whether its my phone game, whether shes making me out to be a player (cuz im good looking for the most part) or if she gets second day buyers remorse. i just cant figure it out. its always been a sticking point for me. if anyones got a phone routine that works for them i should try or some inner game tips it would much be appreciated. It doesnt seem like im tanking when i do get them out because we normally end up making out or shes laughing the whole time. Thoughts??????

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I spend as little time on the phone as possible. The only purpose of the phone IMO is to set up dates, not for idle chat. The only thing you need to do on the phone is rekindle a bit of the emotional state you put her in when you initially attracted her and then have her meet with you in person. It should really be no longer than 5 or 10 minutes max.

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Ya i agree with that. i normally try to resort back to a nickname i gave her to try and bring back the good times. what do you do? my wing suggested that i might be coming off as always trying to make plans when i call opposed to calling her and and making in sound as if i hadn't thought to invite her out before i called. what do you think?

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