I work at a Gym and I met this HB there... and everytime she came in She would always say hi and stuff, IOI. One day I got off of work early just as she was done with her work out, there was a deli across the street so I asked her if she wanted to grab a bite, she accepted and we went over and I bought her lunch. After the meal, I got her number and we departed. A few days later I called her and it automatically went to a disconnected number... I was like "That bitch gave me a fake number!" So the next time I saw her at the gym I was like:

ME: Dude, I can't beleive you gave me a fake number!

HB: What? No I didn't.

ME: Well, I called you and it didn't work. What was it again?

HB: 515-214-1632 (fake #)

ME: Oh, my god. I can't beleive it...I feel so stupid!

Turns out I had entered the area code wrong in my phone, I felt like a total douche, but it kinda worked to my advantage because she was worried that I was obviously alittle (not too much) upset with her. I had opologized and told her I would hit her up within the next few days.

After a few days I texted:

ME: Sup

HB: Work. What are you doing?

ME: Just chillin' at my house, watching a movie.

HB: Oh, what movie?

ME: Donnie Darko.

HB: I haven't seen that.

ME: Do you want to?

After I had asked that she agreed to come over to my house and watch it.
When she got there I thought it would be wierd to just invite her in my house so we went to get some food first ate, made her feel more comfortable and then we went back and watched a movie, of course the first 15min in we were making out...and you can imagine where that lead to.

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u make it seem easy

That more of a natural pick up.

Not much game in their, pretty AFC buying her lunch..>< but whatever! It worked right? there are no set rules in the world of seduction!

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ya but it seems like there is a difference between trying to buy her affection versus just showing her a good time and letting things go smoothly

totalyy agree with chikito -

your game had no skill whatso ever.

buying her lunch -
texting instead of calling -
opening your text with a simple 'sup' -
putting text msg convo power in her hands to lead you with questions about what your doing

BUT, it worked cause she wanted you from the start and you did still have to ask her if she wanted some lunch - if it was total AFC then you would not have even done this. but the rest was......

sometimes chicks just fall into your lap - gotta take em all!!

Well he's got my props. He screwed the girl, what better result can come? Just because he didn't use structured routines, canned openers and what not doesn't make him AFC. I steer away from that stuff and use my own things, natural gaming, natural routines. If he didn't get anywhere and just ended up buying the girl lunch than yeah, you might have permission to brand him AFC.
I did like this:

HB: I haven't seen that.

ME: Do you want to?

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I didn't.
You didn't portray to her through text that you were fun or cocky or dominant.
Still, you got laid! Nice work. You were obviously doing something right.
But Ming is also right. Sometimes they fall into your lap. And its a FUCKLOAD easier when they do. Nice work man. Is she coming back for seconds?

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on the matter of buying lunch,
if its a full meal drinks dessert etc, then buying that would be afc, but if its just a sandwiche or a snack then its not AFC.

theres a difference between picking up a 30-40 quid tab and shelling out 5-10, something like i'l pick up the food, you buy me a drink, its still fair not really AFC.
Dnt buy their affection but dnt look cheap either.

And yea there wasnt much game in there but if u got ur end away then god job.

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i knew this girl liked me when i was at the register with a guest and she said bye as she was leaving, i ignored her, she then repeated her self, louder and waiving her arm in the air to get my attention...

say what you want to say, the reason i was texting her was b/c she was at work... and i bought her like a $5 small salad from a deli which was conveinently across the street, it wasn't like a $40 meal.

How can you say that there was no game there, when the first night we went out she was at my house on my bed watching a movie with me? and 4 days later we had sex. I dated this girl the last month i was in town before i moved 2 hours away, basically she told me she hated me (jokingly) and regretted doing anything b/c i was moving away.

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I like vagina.

on re-thinking the situation on buying a sandwich- i agree that giving a simple gesture doesnt allow you to lose your frame within the right context.

but on the rest i stand by my words.

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i believe i am an alpha male. cause i do what i want to do when i want to do it.

I am not going to stand there and say 'i am not going to buy you a coke!!' cause i think it will lower my value.

If i want to buy a girl lunch, or if i want to pick her up when we go out and i think it will benefit me - then i will.

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You turn and act AFC when you do what she wants you to do - you lose your frame.

anyway...
this one chased you and opened you (womens opening is alot suttler than mens) - you should be happy.

It sounds like he played it right. The girl was already into him. The only thing he needed to do was play it cool and let her do all the work. I think his game was knowing that this girl did not need to be gamed.

The same routines and openers don't work universal with every girl, if he tried to DHV her when she was already into him he could have seemed like a jerk and scared her off.

Some things don't need to be over thought, just done.

Yeah well I don't like you!

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Bullshit. It would have shown he was a hardcore mofo. Even into a ten year sex buddy relationship you need to DHV. Lowering your value is a sign of weekness.

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