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 Post subject: IN10SE OMS question
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:34 am 
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so i have the ebook. are all those routines different forms of OMS or is the whole freaking thing the OMS? it seems that each one is a different routine, i hope so atleast!

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 Post subject: Re: IN10SE OMS question
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:36 am 
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It's a combination of three different patterns.
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'The Hospital Pattern'. This pattern serves to fractionate the subject from intense feelings of pain to pleasure, and swing the subjects emotions like a pendulum. The pain is anchored to something away from the PUA, while pleasure is anchored directly to the PUA. This technique not only emotionally distorts the subject into a state of feeling disoriented with the outside world, but also creates a feeling of safety within the PUA's presence, building a disorienting semi-dependency.

'The Gemini Pattern'. This pattern is designed to create two subconscious identities in the subject. One being the socially adhering, conservative identity, the other being the sexually free, socially uninhibited identity. Once these two identities are built, the desired identity is brought out of the subject, replacing the identity not desired (by the PUA) as the major source of personal direction for the subject.

'The Rising Sun Pattern'. This pattern installs the idea of a 'shadow' within the subject, which harbours all of the subjects natural (read - sexual) desires and fanatasies. Once the concept of the shadow has been installed, the concept is enlarged, until the idea becomes tangible and real to the subject. The PUA will then guide the subject into stepping 'into' the shadow, and assume its dominance.

These three patterns serve to not only anchor a multitude of desirable feelings to the PUA, but fractionates these with the painful and undesirable feelings anchored outside of the PUA. It then builds a new sexual identity within the subject, and allows this identity to gain dominance. The effect is then reinforced with a post-hypnotic guiding of the subject into the concept of a 'shadow' which holds all the subjects repressed desires and fantasies, inducing the subject to act with greater sexual recklessness.

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 Post subject: Re: IN10SE OMS question
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:28 pm 
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so i have the ebook. are all those routines different forms of OMS or is the whole freaking thing the OMS? it seems that each one is a different routine, i hope so atleast!

thanks yall
If you have to ask this question, then you shouldn't be messing around with it. Do this, work on yourself first. You can definitely use NLP to do that. Read "NLP: The New Technology of Acheivement." Read Anthony Robbins' "Personal Power" and "Awaken the Giant Within." Read Bandler's latest book. If those books don't transform your inner game, then nothing will. You can get your inner game so strong that you don't need to worry about the forbidden patterns. They are forbidden for a reason....THEY'RE DANGEROUS!!!! OMS should be the furthest thing from your mind.

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The eBook you've got I'm pretty sure is the fake and lame version of OMS. It briefly explains the hospital pattern and gives an example of it.

The real OMS eBook you can buy from IN10SE's website, and it is very pretty. You'll know what I mean if you have it.

So yeah, the eBook you have is not OMS. It's just a lame excuse for it.

The pattern isn't particularly dangerous unless you are well versed with NLP. The whole "dangerous" thing I believe is largely a commercial and political scam, although it can be extremely powerful if done right - I know, i've used it a lot.


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Rafiel,
You're quite new to NLP by your own admission. Yes, it can be dangerous. There is a reason why Ross doesn't teach it. If you are not careful, especially in selecting whom you do this with, you can create a lot of problems for yourself. It's best to remember the main rule of speed seduction: LEAVE THEM BETTER THAN YOU FOUND THEM. OMS makes this virtually impossible to do.

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This thread keeps popping up and for me is sinister in its inference to a way to COERCE another human being, is that what we are about?
I do not know much about Hypnosis or NLP , but this OMS sounds very dangerous ground for anyone not trained in its correct use.
You have to ask yourself the question - are YOU prepared to take the consequencies for your use of it.
From the little i have read about the 3 differing models/techniques you are manipulating a person into a place only a few proffesional people can get them out of and then if you are gaming them YOU are going to JUST leave them ?
I have had some regression and guided hypnotic ventures and few of the facilitators afterwards really knew what after effects would continue to occur, fortunately I was with several people whom could help me make sense of any effects that i found coming out of my psych and most of the hypnosis was in a light and concious way.
The mind is still virtually an undiscovered realm where only a few dedicated people really understand its basic workings, for someone to mess with it is like a 3 year old playing with a chainsaw, cos when he grows up he wants to be a lumberjack!
If you need to use that level of coercion to get a girl how ugly are you?
Theres plenty of other less dangerous and fun things to achieve the same results, cutting corners can be unrewarding in the end to put it mildly...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 4:21 am 
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i get what you are all saying. i totally agree about learning nlp and inner game and shit. im not going to use oms, i just want to learn exactly what it is and how and why it works.
ive see the same thing on wiki, but i cant find exactly what or where to find those patterns.
this is what i want to do. Use MM for openers and A1 -A3, SS for repport, and then oms or any other patterns for the full close.

im tired of all these PUAs saying that their method is the best and all others suck. its kinda sick, everyone got into this for the same reason. so why bullshit around about it. every method will work, so im going to come up with what works for me.

if i like a girl enough, im not going to use her and fuck her head up just to get laid, thats not fair. i just want what works for me.

although i havent read or learned ALL of the methods, i have read and learned a few. i got into this after PUA season 1, like im sure a lot of people did. i read the game from style, i read TMM, im going through the RJ SS home study course...and i post and read from a few different forums.

i dont want to fuck anyone up. but if i want to bone a chick and thats that, thats what i want to do and ill use the methods that work best for me. if i see gf material in a chick, im going to change it up and use what works best for me in that situation.
do yall get what i mean?

dont think that im going to use OMS or nlp and try to get sex slaves or anything. im just trying to learn as much as i can and make my own routines, thats all.

and thats why i asked. sorry for the way i worded it, i didnt mean it the way yall took it.

thanks for yalls (from the south) input.


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I am speaking on behalf of everyone else involved in running this forum when I say that I don't believe in censorship. However, some things are "forbidden" for a reason and cannot be condoned by our forum. I have discussed this issue with the other moderators and we think that having OMS on our forum is like leaving a shotgun on your bed with 10 year old kids in the house instead of keeping the gun locked up and hidden. Forbidden patterns like The Octoberman Sequence should not be readily available out in the open to be used by people who are not certified in Neuro-linguistic programming because that's just as bad as (if not worse than) providing alcohol to minors. They can get it elsewhere if they really want it and they can face the consequences themselves, but it won't be from us.


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