Didn't turn out so well I thought I was smooth of anyone wants to tell me what I did wrong or give any advice or pointers please do so I NEED TO LEARN

Some key points - ignition is a party that im djing soon. Just to clear up some stuff. And im in highschool.

I feel like everytime I talk to this girl she gives me signals but then she like backs out I always took the blame because I can't blame anything on the girl, its my fault for my game not being strong enough. But maybe just maybe this girl might be fucked up. Anyways read it give me your advice thanks

Rafa says:
hey for some reason i feel like i should be talking to u right

Rafa says:
now

Michu ... says:
yeaaaa

Michu ... says:
lol

Rafa says:
like my insticts like made me send u a message are u alrite?

Rafa says:
Everything good?

Michu ... says:
nooo

Michu ... says:
=[

Rafa says:
shutup really?

Rafa says:
LMAO I was right?

Rafa says:
wow I must have like a deep ass connection to u because i felt like something was wrong

Michu ... says:
=[

Rafa says:
whats going on? what happened? do u need an emergency hug?

Michu ... says:
yeessss

Rafa says:
How about an emergency kiss?

Michu ... says:
yesss

Rafa says:
Lmao i can go further and further if you want?

Michu ... says:
jajaja

Michu ... says:
no thanx

Michu ... says:
lmao

Rafa says:
But dont worry ill give you both a kiss a hug and a hickey at ignition

Rafa says:
deal?

Michu ... says:
jajaja

Rafa says:
you didnt answer

Michu ... says:
i dont want 2 do anthing wit ne1

Michu ... says:
i need heeeellllppppp

Michu ... says:
wat r u doing this weekend?

Michu ... says:
??????

Rafa says:
ok

Michu ... says:
wat r u doing this weekend???

Rafa says:
ehm

Rafa says:
rave i think

Rafa says:
or peninsula

Rafa says:
party

Rafa says:
I think you should come

Rafa says:
your coming

Rafa says:
actually

Rafa says:
im gonna make u have fun

Michu ... says:
i want 2 but now my mom is sayin g that im going on a bad track and she is goin to do everything and any thing to put me back on the right track

Michu ... says:
sooo idk if ima go

Michu ... says:
unless i lik sneak out or somtin

Michu ... says:
thats y im lik sooo fukin depressed lik my mom is makin my life SHIT

Michu ... says:
and im havin soo many fukin problems

Michu ... says:
lik its not even funny

Michu ... says:
=|

Rafa says:
sorry had my tutor here

Rafa says:
im here to lsiten

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
i dont want 2 talk bout it nemore

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
=[

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
soo wats up

Rafa says:
no no tell me

Rafa says:
i was feeling like that before

Rafa says:
I felt like no girls wanted me and stuff it was shit

Rafa says:
but then

Rafa says:
i listened to dont worry be happy

Rafa says:
and i was like just fuck it

Rafa says:
you know my parents may be drug testing me any minute

Rafa says:
i might not get any pussy till summer

Rafa says:
but dont worry be happy

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
omg

Rafa says:

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
trhat sux

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
im not hapy

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
=/

Rafa says:
Yea but maybe if u listen to the song you will feel better

Rafa says:
and remember when your having a bad day

Rafa says:
theres somone having a worse one trust me

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
nahh

Rafa says:
1 month a go

Rafa says:
My dad came to my moms house

Rafa says:
packed my shit up

Rafa says:
and made me leave told me he was going to drug test me that day
Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
y?

Rafa says:
said i was kicked off all my soccer teams

Rafa says:
club and school

Rafa says:
and i had to live with him for the entire quarter

Rafa says:
without computer or xbox or tv

Rafa says:
WHILE I WAS FUCKING BAKED AS HELL FROM SMOKING IN THE MORNING
Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
ooo

Rafa says:
That was a shitty day...

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
SHIT!!

Rafa says:
lol

Rafa says:
I had NO idea what the fuck was going on

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
jajjaja

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
that sux

Rafa says:
the next thing i know im shitting in my pants thinking how the fuck im gonna past this drug test

Rafa says:
lool

Rafa says:
Took me a while to get over that one

Rafa says:
and guess what next week im gonna start playing on my club team

Rafa says:
again

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
jajaj

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
thats good

Rafa says:
and you forgot about one KEY important thing your mom and my mom are friends tell her ure going with me and shell let u out

Rafa says:
I promise ill make your night one that youll forget about all your problems

Rafa says:
and just live your life

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
she doesnt care

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
my moms a BITCG

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
BITCH*

Rafa says:
I can imagine but u know wat u just have to deal with shit for the time being because everything gets better over time

Rafa says:
time heals all wounds

Rafa says:
just listen to some music that makes you happy

Rafa says:
smile even though you might be happy

Rafa says:
and just laugh at life

Rafa says:
Because NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY LET IT GO

Rafa says:
"Sent her a link to a song here but forums wont let me post it"
Rafa says:
Dont worry be happy cutie

Rafa says:
Plus remember im always gonna be here for you, I love you michelle.
Rafa says:

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
omg i love u raf

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
=]

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
u make me happy

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
=D

Rafa says:
pshh you make me happier

Rafa says:
Did u listen to the song?

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
i listenin now

Rafa says:
Its a good song

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
yep

Rafa says:
Im gonna play it especially 4 u at ignition

Rafa says:
and put like a little techno voice b4 it saying this one is 4 your smile

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
aww

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
jajaja

Rafa says:
So i hope ure feelin happier rite?

Rafa says:

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
kinda'

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
the sog is long

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
song*

Rafa says:
haha whatever so talk to me while u listen too it?

Rafa says:

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
i am

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
lmao

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
my mom said that i look like a hoe in all my pics cuz of my face

Rafa says:
Lmao

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
lik my facial expresions and shit

Rafa says:
i feel bad for saying that i was joking with u when i did

Rafa says:
Alright lets play a game

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
ok wat game

Rafa says:
Tell the truth

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
=D

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
ok

Rafa says:
Ok if i held your hand would u smile?

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
yeaaaaa

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
def!!!

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
lik no joke

Rafa says:
If i gave you a hug would u smile

Rafa says:
?

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
yep

Rafa says:
If i gave you a kiss would you smile?

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
wenever u huged me i would smile

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
i dont know bout that cuz lik i dont just kiss ne1

Michu ...lost in this world...sad+mad+upset=depressed says:
so if u kissed me i would be lik huh???

Rafa says:

Comon guys help me out

hey man i would love to help in any way i can, but i honestly cannot decipher whats goin on in the conversation. it looks to me like the same person says like four replys in a row, then the next one says something that makes no sense. revise your post please

anyway, from what i can gather, it sounds like you got this girl on a pedastal. maybe you want to date her, in which case that really isnt a problem, just dont let her know she is the only girl in your world. i would suggest using mystery's cat-string theory and give her some space.

as for if you just want her just because she is hot. first thing you gotta do is get her off your pedastal. i believe neil strauss gave the instructions (not word for word) "fuck some other girls, then see if that flower is so special."

good luck and i hope this helps

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OK online gaming huh.
I don't know that much but I'll stick to the basics.

To me, you're DLV-ing yourself a lot here. I don't know your story or relations with this girl but.
*By telling her you're smoking weed or whatever first thing in the morning. Whatever you feel, I've been there and it's nothing but pathetic, at least no real reason to like you
*You seem scared as fuck about your parents threats and don't seem to be dealing very well with them. I don't know your age. You're demonstrating your parents have huge power over your life = wtf.

Also, you're giving IOIs and not receiving a lot. Feels like you're being shit tested really as she's complaining about everything. She's acting super needy and you're complying. You say you have time to listen and stuff why not give a false time constraint. You should be pulling some cocky jokes here and there to change her state of mind and forget about the problem, not asking if it's OK if you kiss her and forcing some deal with her to kiss you IRL when she's feeling like shit. You should be talking about other subjects than negative things and problems.

That's my two cents, maybe someone more experienced could fill you in on more

I'll give you a readabiltiy tip ---this post is too long people aren't going to to sit here and read it.

I'm not sure of the details with this girl example how long you've know her but it looks like your well in the Friend Zone

The way you're talking about kissing her is done in a manner of a joking friend.

Then what is this that sounds so lame

the whole drug test story completely unnecessary. you have should never mention that. At that point your so far away from seduction its not funny Your goal is to get with this girl that was all irrelevant

then you tried to go back the kiss thing and got dissed.

Thats my honest critique you beat around the bush too much and like someone else said you have her on a high pedestal

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Conversing with girls is fun but if her vagina is your goal, stop wasting all your energy conversing with her. Get to the point. Give her one compliment. Give her one thing to think about. Secure a "one to one" REAL LIFE situation. Then hang the fuck up or shut your computer down.

F close her first. Afterwards, you can pretend to be a psychiatrist all you want.

Do you know why you feel good when you converse with girls? You feel good because ANY sort of interaction is absolutely a release and expression of sexuality. Your heart rate goes up when you converse with a girl. Your heart rate goes up when you touch a girl. And believe me, they feel the same way.

So think about a typical conversation with a girl and think about your emotion levels. You call and say, "Hi." . . . Boom, you kinda feel excited right away . . . you smile to yourself . . .right?

Then you talk about some sexual things and it begins feeling pretty good . . right? You say to yourself, "Hell yeah!"

Now this is when you SHOULD secure a "one on one" meeting and go, "Cool, I'll see you at _______ bye." (She thinks . . . wow, I want more of what just happened . . . )

Instead, you both go, "blah, blah, blah, blah , blah . . .blah, blah, blah, blah , blah . . blah, blah, blah, blah , blah . . .blah, blah, blah, blah , blah . . ."

And what happens? You leak all that sexual tension. You bleed it. You both talk yourselves to boredom. So now, there's no sexual tension. There's nothing to look forward to. There's no 'mystery' left.

Next time, stay focused. Hey, isn't vagina worth some time and effort?

Before you even begin, you should have in your mind, a clear goal for that particular interaction. You should know what you're trying to achieve.

Haha thanks guys I apreciate it Next time ill take her off a pedestal and make her feel unimportant.

You didn't get it.

my 2 cents: your goal is to leave her feeling better than before your interaction. make her associate GOOD feelings with you. right now, you are VERY negative. this is bad. she may act like she wants someone to empathize and wallow in sorrow with, but that's not you...leave that up to some LJBF chump.

get her thinking positive. tell her to imagine doing something that would make her happy right now. girl's imaginations are twice as powerful/vivid as yours or mine. all you have to do is get her to USE her imagination in a positive way and she will start feeling that way and then associate good feelings with you. in person, watch the eyes and the corners of the mouth. as soon as they flip the imagination switch on, youll see it.

stop DLVing yourself. the whole story about your parents controlling/scaring you, and you not getting any girls... BAD!!! forget that stuff and concentrate on the good. aim for cocky funny. say, "hey guess what, i'm back in the soccer club, must've decided they needed me to win " in text, cocky funny is accomplished by two things: an I-am-awesome phrase (cocky) followed by a tongue-stick-out smiley (funny). you'd be surprised what you can get away with when you punctuate with a

and yes you are coming off a bit needy. here's a rule of thumb: reward good behavior with attention, ignore bad behavior. read that last sentence again. it is POWERFUL thinking. when she says something that contributes to the conversation in a positive way or in some way demonstrates compliance toward you, reward her with attention. it can be in the form something positive said back to her or even a neg (be careful, callibrate). whats important is that she contributes positive and you reward by giving her attention. now if she denies compliance like when she blew you off about the kiss or said something really negative, ignore her. thats it. ignore her. she'll be like "what??" and text you again. at this point give her a chance to be positive by responding with a question or comment that hopefully will get a positive response. if she responds correctly, reward with attention (good/bad, doesn't matter as long as it's attention). rinse and repeat.

so for example, when she responded positively to your hug question and your holding hands question, you did well by responding positively and rewarding her with attention. when she blew you off about the kiss thing, you should have ignored it. you did let 3 texts go by before answeering which is good, but you could have waited a little longer. then changed the subject and give her a chance to comply with you again.

hope this helps, im still learning my self so if anybody feels any part of my advice is off, please feel free to correct.