Reopening ? Workplace sarging. Etc



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:12 am 
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Hello. First post so it might be a little messy and I'm having some beers. I recently got into this pickup thing about a week ago. I got hold of a lot of great info.

I knew from earlier that I was sort of an AFC, however; I've known about its meaning for a couple years and honestly I've not bothered to approach women before because for whatever reason I don't feel sexual socially. Call it an excuse though.

Anyways here's the case.

I'm at a new workplace. I work with some guys and I'm really not the AMOG, I guess nobody really is. However, I heard a girl was coming in. There are 2 other guys. I just decided days in advance I was going to sarge her whatever the risk, I tend to not give a fuck about certain potential consequences sometimes.
So using principles I've heard and read about I did my first "flirty approach" ever or whatever you'd wanna call it. I'd not approached a girl like ever except as to make "friends".

I went in when I arrived, greeted the guys with good mood and got acknowledgement as planned (had been a week off).
I greeted a girl-friend of the girl who was visiting after, then I greeted the girl=target. I might have given a slight neg.

But knowing she'd basically accepted me I just sat down laid back non-needy. OK Nevermind this shit I'm gonna try cut it short.

I was C/F, didn't answer straight and with retarded exxagerated answers, however, she'd still be like "are you serious?" like every time, I'd just smile and laugh. I made some DHV's slowly but it worked.
She gave the first few IOIs a few minutes into the interaction. I continued just having fun and being in a good mood, some smalltalk and some smart answers/questions here and there.
However I figured I had a lot of time so didn't rush anything, this was basically for interactional practise. I waited till the next day before I started doing a little bit of faggy kino, not the macho kind, I've now realized, but still though it started giving amazing responses and she'd babble about nothing for minutes because she was excited. Kino involved 2 hugs and a high five by the course of the day. I got DDB'ed at least once.

OK now in the evening I started to realize that this shit fucking works. I couldn't sleep, eat. I felt fucking sick, wanting to throw up several times I don't know why but perhaps because of the whole thing and I was getting cold feet and not wanting to hurt a girl that was basically meant just for practise. However I started feeling something I've never felt, like caring...but whatever, not gonna turn it into another one-itis (had my share). So next day my game was really off due to confusion and exhaustion.

However managed to tweak in some unique jokes there and some chatter about family values. In the afternoon she became like ultra playful and DDB'ed me like fuck, for like 10-15mins. I mean I've never noticed that look before but I understood like fuck, she wants me or whatever. WTF. So I get like screwed up and can't think NOR game. I become a fucking puppy and can't control my body language. However. We get to a location where I'm supposed to kiss her. I knew it was right. I neglected cause I didn't want to turn this into something (OH HI THERE AFC-ME) and started thinking about long distance relationships (as I'm moving soon) and all kinds of weird fucked up shit sorry the cussing btw I don't do it IRL.

So I neglected the kiss though I knew it was the right time 99,x%. She gave me at least 3 different verbals which inderictly suggested kissing at that point. I knew it, I just didn't want to fuck things with work up now etc.
So after a while I'm just like...well my body language was giving in I guess I started wanting to you know. Couldn't control it, becamse like a cripple very non-alpha. Not that it really matterd a ton since attraction was great...but my retarded brain refused.

I didn't close her that night and she lost both the DDB and interest I think due to my hesitation.

Next day we numberclose and I leave for a month-long trip. Awkward as I was, I did like really retarded AFC shit like i.e "I apologize for yesterday." -she: "For what then?" "Blablablablabla leaving long time wish we could get to know eachother better blablabla" AFC like fuck.

Anyway she didn't ddb me anymore. Earlier that day I was like ignoring her and stuff, and I could tell she got pissed and disappointed. But she'd hug when we left.

I texted her two times, one the day after, another the day after that...first neutral topic then an "Are you having a good time" + a good DHV... and she didn't respond. I'd blown it, fairly, by turning AFC and getting no fucking sleep or food.

Now here's my question sorry about the long intro:

-While I don't think reopening is that great, I'm going to continue C/F next time around. AND. There's another girl coming in. I want to
sarge her. She and the other girl know one-another. I can figure that the other girl has told the new girl already that I'm probably a little retarded.

Now. My plan is. I'm going to reappear. I'm going to be alpha as I can be. I'm not gonna give a fuck about earlier, and pretend like nothing
affected me. I'm gonna neg the new girl (these girls are like HB8 both) and game her for fun. I'll continue a cocky friendly convo with the previous target.

Now the question is, is this a terrible idea ? Should I do something different ? I mean if the new girl knows I'm a fucking wuss, then will humour and DHV'ing still work for attraction ?
I'm gonna spend a lot of time working scheduled with the new girl. Much of it alone with her. I want to seduce her. But what I'm wondering is that if the first girl that rejected me after being really into me will fuck things up showing to the new that I'm not preselected by women, and I wonder if she'll be avoiding me etc.

All in all this is a pretty unstructured post but I hope you understand what I'm getting at.

Can I reopen the previous girl in any way ? I mean, she did REALLY like me, like fucking truckload of IOIs, now I don't really care if she doesn't want me as BF, but I hope we can like still talk even though she didn't answer my SMS's.

Thanks if you cared to read and reply to this...somewhat arrogant first post. I'll be grateful for sure.

I'm going out this weekend doing my first true sarging practise BTW. I'm going to get good, cause fuck the life of an AFC. Seriously.

Again, thanks a ton in advance if you can advice me with how to make at least friends when I fucked up and went bAFC (this is for further reference and getting introduced to friends and such, not oneitis fuck that).


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:56 am 
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Bumping this tl;dr and I'll rephrase. I will be very grateful for any thoughts.

Anyone have advice/experience with reopening after they have lost interest ?

I didn't kiss her and from what I hear the window closes and you end up in friend zone or nothing at all. I'd rather be friend with good reputation than nothing. She was very into me for a long time though, is it impossible now ?

Will it be different, hard, to game her friend ? I know girls talk.

In my work we work really close, like together all day. I'll be together alone with the new girl for 3 days straight, and that could be fun days if I game well and awkward if not. I haven't yet met this girl.

Since the first girl has probably DLV'ed me to the other girl, should I do anything in particular ?

Thanks a ton for any advice or thoughts.


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