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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:24 am 
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sometime when I approch a girl they just ignor me, eventhough I used a question opener...is there some more other ways of opening...Im new to PUA so please be gentel on the comments...thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:56 pm 
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There are tons of other openers but it sounds like you are doing something else wrong (Otherwise they wouldn’t ignore you). Here are 3 possibilities

Body language- Dont walk up to them with your chest facing them. Face somewhere else and turn your head to talk to them. Then once they start talking to you slowly turn your body to them. DONT LEAN INTO THEM when you talk. Lean back and look relaxed.


Voice- Don’t be too quiet. Maybe they didn’t hear you? Or maybe they thought you were talking o someone else?

Confidence- Girls don’t usually straight out ignore people right away unless they think the guy is creepy. If you are confident when you open them then they will submit and answer. Honestly sometimes the best thing to do is to hold your position and ground but just talk louder and louder until they respond. Give them the impression that you will not be ignored but don’t be angry, just assertive


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:26 pm 
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This is a tactic me and fellow PUA were disccusing. Basically it is catching them off gaurd. Obviously you want to use proper body language and your approach needs to come from an area where they can see you approaching. You dont want to come up from behind, you want to make sure they can some what already see you. From there you go up to them and say something like "Can I bother you for a minute?" The girls maybe like yea sure I guess, but the point is to not even let them answer. Don't give them a chance to say no. 3 things you can use to transition into a good opener such as jealous girlfriend are opinions, observations, and subject change.

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opinion-My friend and I were just talking and we needed a female opinion.

observational- The art in this place pretty crazy isn't it?

subject change- Hey that shirt skirt whatever ... is styleen where did you get that? It is kind of like my friends. Speaking of friends, on of mine got into this messed up situation. Think of comedians who tell one liner jokes. They quickly transition into another.

The preemptive strike is basically an opener to an opener. You need to create a positive aura around yourself and approach with confidence and remember to not give them option of turning you down.

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much agreed...i usually approach on an angle an kind of talk over my shoulder as if im almost about to walk away. open ended questions are better because then she wont really have the chance to say no. also statements work sometimes because its not as confrontational for example if you were at a club you could say "this club is packed" basically anything she can relate to
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:30 pm 
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If your getting the cold shoulder when you ask an opinion opener, this usually means that you might not have shown enough confidence when you asked the question. Either you wasn't talking loud enough or asked the question with a look that showed that you were really interested in their answers. When I usually ask opinion openers, I get myself thinking that whatever answer they give me, I'm gonna make sure they can support it and stand by it.

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