OK this is my first sarge after reading some pickup guides and watching some PUA videos. Me and a buddy decide to go to a club for a friends birthday but before decide to go to Red Robin to eat. My main goal was to approach women and try to make out with at least one number.

FR Red Robin Bartender:

Me and a buddy walk in about 10 PM place is pretty empty. Sit at the bar and the bartender is about a HB7. We ask how shes doing and she proceeds to tell us shes still trashed from clubbing last night. Make some fluff talk about where she lives, what jobs she has, etc, etc. This is one of those girls that is just straight up bitchy at times but prob wild in the sack. She tells it as it is. Things are going well when her co-worker/best friend (which is a guy) and they start talking about how she hates his ex-gf who is trying to get back with him and then he starts saying some shit about her bf which she never mentioned. Me and my buddy inject ourselves into this convo (being sarcastic but friendly overall). At this point I didnt decide to try to close the set due to all this bf/gf talk. I kinda regret it as I was feeling some vibes from her.


FR Club:
Starts off slow but then the club starts to even out the girl/boy ratio. Opened up a few sets by "hi how you doing?" and more along those lines. That lasts for a few minutes then the convo starts to turn stale and I have a hard time keeping a 2-5 set of girls all interested. One of the 3 sets I negged one of the girls who didnt say anything at all "is your friend always this quiet?" and they were like no just talk to her but after a little bit they walked away. This girl named Molly says she is not dressed for the club and I could tell she felt uncomfortable. I didnt know how to get her to overcome that. One of the girls stands behind a pillar and looks over her shoulder like she is hiding from someone and I ask "are you hiding from someone?" and she stares at me with her bitch look "no." Stunned a little I walked away. I wanted to talk to this tall blond hb 8 but she was sitting down at a booth the whole time with 2 other girls and 2 big ghetto looking dude.

FR Strip Club:
Decide to leave and visit another friend at another club. Get to the car and am too trashed to drive so we walk over to the strip club. Ok lets try some hired gun sarging. Brush off most of the strippers but this brunette with amazing 34d real tits caught my eye. I play the sarcastic, cocky, your a dime a dozen kinda game yet remain friendly. Make some fluff talk about travel for a good 10 minutes. Decide to give in and get a dance. She said she normally doesnt allow guys to touch her but said I could cuz I was cute, had cute dimples, and kept telling me I had a nice body. She even starts to take off my shirt and feel my chest. She goes on about how she is spoiled, her last bf was 40 (shes 24), and that she likes asian guys (me). I ask if shes people outside the club and she said yea and at the end I ask her "how can i see you outside the club"? She says she has a bf but that I am cute and wont be single for long blah blah

Go back and sit down and see the hb7 drink girl. She asks me if i want a drink an she brings me one. I ask her to sit down but she says she has to keep working. I make the comment that drink girls are usually prettier then the strippers. She asks me about my necklace (asking me a question sign of a IOI) and if im religious. I say a little bit but not devout and she goes on about how she was raised strict baptist but isnt anymore. She also says she moves every 7 months or so and is moving to San Francisco in 2 weeks. I go on about how I move alot to since im in the military. Then she says she has to go and clean the stage. So closing time and we're about to leave and I go the stage and ask her when shes leaving again. I then tell her I go to CA alot and that she should give mer her number if she wants to get together. She says she is flattered but has a bf. I was really feeling this one and was confident I was going to get her number.


Conclusion:
Ok so no numbers but I overcame alot of AA. Still got room to improve there though. I think my biggest obstable was after the openers I didnt know how to keep the convo flowing long enough where I could isolate the girl at the club. So for the PUA's out there what would you do different out there? I have some more details if need be.

For one thing, don't go into the field without a gameplan. "Fluff" talk won't get you anywhere. Always keep a list of gambits in your back pocket or in your phone so that you have something to refer to if you blank out. You can just open your phone, act like your reading a text and continue on. Make sure when you neg the girls, the neg should be a compliment. If you say, "Hey, you're short" that is not a proper neg. It might work sometimes but it could be more powerful. For example, I was at the gym and I ran into an HB8. She said she liked playing soccer. I negged her by saying, "Your too nice of a girl to play soccer. You probably apologize every time you steal the ball"

Also, always know when to roll off. If you see that the girls are feeling uneasy and creeped out but you keep on gaming them, not only are you creeping them out but you are demonstrating lower value to the rest of your room, and it can affect future sets.

When you open, you have to hook your set, and convey higher value or an interesting lifestyle. "hi, how are you doing" isn't going to cut it unless you have some kind of great follow up." Since you are just starting out, I encourage you memorize canned material. I like the g string opener.

Once you've opened your set, build attraction through DHV stories and by being genuinely interesting. Always have several gambits and games in your head so you can multi-thread.

A good way to get a number is to plan an event halfway through. For example you can open with something about pedicures and end by saying something along the lines of, hey put your number in here, and we'll go get pedicures together.

Or you simply say somehting like, "You're the most interesting person I've met all night, and I would love to continue this conversation"
Then hand the phone and she'll put it in. Make sure you've built up enough attraction though.

Follow my advice for now, and you should get some number closes. Once you've gotten the hang of opening and building attraction, you can work on building rapport and kiss closing and whatnot. Hope it helps.

Ok good call. I def need to work on demonstrating DHV and being more interesting/interesting stories. Cant get the closer without getting that down first.

I agree "Fluffing" is a oneway ticket to getting freind zoned. There are plenty of good canned openers out there. memorize some, but I dont think opening is the key. you need to dhv. Dont sit there and tell me nothing interesting has never and will never happen to you. Just think of some good life experiences you have and reherse them in your head until you have a really good story. Once shes comfortable with you escalate kino. and always quit while your ahead. leave em wanting more.

Agreed. When taken to the extremes fluff talk is a DLV, it lets her know that you have nothing better to do than talk to her. Either gauge her interest and push the situation forward or eject properly and move on to your next set. When you swing in and open you should just be giving them a taste of the good time your having but let them know its fleeting. Your not sticking around forever and if they want to have as much fun as your having tonight, they'll follow. Always smile and stand confidently, your the guy having the most fun in the room remember?
As far as strippers go I don't have any expert advice like some of our fellow members might but I do know a couple tricks. Strippers love peacocking, they eat that shit up. How do you think they catch guys attention among the other twenty hot girls working the place? Its probably not called peacocking, but its surly along those lines. You also need to develop new scales to gauge interest, sure if you were in a club and a girl grabbed your ass and said you were cute you could consider this a major IOI and fast forward your game into the seduction stages but it obviously doesn't carry the same meaning in a strip club. Strippers see the same cocky game every night while guys try to pick them up so you've got to mix it up. This is a perfect situation to break out some of your cock/funny material. Keep her laughing all night, it'll be a nice break for her. Stripper IOIs are easy, look for her giving you free dances and continuing to come back to chat with you all night. Those girls are there to make money and if your not giving it to them they'll find someone else, she wont be wasting her time unless shes interested in you.

I agree,
Strippers/hired guns will tell you anything to get your money
She'll tell you that you are cute and give you false IOI's.
Once you get accustomed to it, you will be able to spot the false ones from the genuine ones.

What are gambits? Can you give me some examples? How long should a DHV story/experience last? Are all these values tailored for picking up girls at the club or can they be conveyed in daygame as well? What are some good games to play on a 1-3 set?

Gambits are anything used to keep the pick up going.
They can be stories or fun little games.
Ones I like to use include psychology games like Strawberry fields.
Google it.
DHV stories can last anywhere from 30 seconds to 3 minutes. However, the longer you go on, the more likely you will lose their attention unless you have good story telling capabilites and can keep them constantly engaged.

Daygame is very much like club game except things happen a lot more slowly. Often times you can be k-closing a girl within half an hour at a club. It is a high energy, crowded environment. This is not the case in day game. You will need to build lots of comfort and rapport.