I think its still viable. You can slightly change it anyway, turn it into a salsa move and steal her seat as you spin her away even
I still use this heaps. Love it to death. Sugar and Spice Naughty and Nice. Maybe its because the PUA hasnt picked up so much as not all people have pay tv in Aus

The Friend test should be destroyed aswell...

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If you're ever busted on the opinion opener its so simple to get out of it especially if you have a wing man near by

Just say "See I told my friend this Mystery Method crap wouldn't work! " then yell to your friend!! "Hey (your friends name) get over here... check this out these girls are on to you man" ---Friend "what are you serious "NO this works man I'll show you...you girl whats your name pick a number between 1 and 10" then "Ok give me your (hands slap her hands) say "Crap this doesn't work" They should Laughing their asses off at that point Then you can go on with whatever,friends test, hand test and whatever routines. Use the show to your advantage

Pre plan this make a variation of it when you're alone if you want


Learn to be more creative an innovative before running away with your tail between your legs

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im goin with what reo says, its not really a question of openers being worn out or not. or for that matter even if using a canned line is even worth it. just use the PUA game to become confident around girls, use lines when you can get away with it, and just make em laugh a lot. do this and any girl will love you. it hardly matters what your opener was. even if you get rejected, so what? there are plenty more.....

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I was wondering about what effect the show will have but also what effect a ton of guys using the same canned material would have on the game. Personally, I want to have strong inner game and strong natural game where I just use situational openers an on the go material.

Unfortunately I am not the social person I want to be yet. I can lose track of a conversation or have it halted altogether still with nothing left to say. Until I get more comfortable talking and better at story telling, I have to use canned material as a crutch.

I too wonder what is going to happen when all the good canned lines get burned up and new people are out creating their own stuff. I think it's a positive step for PUA's because we can have really strong natural game that will allow us to be superior pua's in the long run.

Some of the people living in other countries that have never shown VH1 or sold "The game"... You are safe for now. For now!

If you like me, are cursed with a bad memory, you should develop your own stuff and use different stuff as much as you can because sometimes you open the same set again, or people that were standing close (if you have a favourite bar or such).

When using canned material you are NEVER safe! There is a slight chance that some other PUA has been around doing the same stuff before. No my friends, the only way to be safe is to keep one step ahead, develop new stuff, keep moving on up!

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You guys are paranoid. You can use season one stuff because most people forgot about it, and once again as I say so often, even if they do call you on it you can say yeah I seen this routine on the show and thought I would try it.

Also I read the book the game, and Neil was constantly creating routines, and by reading what he did to create them has helped me. He read runes, I bought a set of runes and a book. (Mystery's medallions on the show are also rune symbols)

I can make routines out of other stuff too. Like a friend taught me you can make a bet that you can stick a pool cue on the ceiling and swing it. I turned that into a routine. I've learned slight of hand magic tricks from the children section at the library. You can buy books on nothing but mental challenges and use those.

Also there are plenty of techniques that are doubtful to ever grow old. The photographic memory routine, or the photo routine, or the digital camera routine, or even the cube. I know many of you disagree on the cube, but honestly I ask if I can use it, and then tell them to stop me if they've heard it before. I always say I learned it in a hypnotherapy class.

Oragami can even be made into a routine. A lot of guys play the guitar, and thats the most over used routine in the book, and chicks will always go for it. They think OMG he can play the guitar, I have to fuck him now

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I agree. 2 days ago in class I used "you know, your nose wiggles when you laugh." the girl replies "Oh, that is such a line. You need the big fuzzy top-hat to pull it off." Got shut down hard!

I want to subtract the "You have to give me $5 for every time you touch me" from your list. I have never heard that used. And no I'm no newb at this.

lol, that "baby in the corner" opener is painful to listen to.

that one's not even worthy of being black listed! Its not a has-been, its a never-was.

I think that opener by Simeon really highlights the its not what you say its how you say it idea..I mean the first few times i heard him say it I physically cringed..but in the winging episode he said it with real confidance that it would open the set, and it came across great

My Space, Youtube, Facebook, Torrents..... don`t be so sure my friend, the world has become global village!



Anyway, I am passionate hater of canned stuuf so I support all non canned gaming tools!

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