Called generalizing...

I went a underwear themed nightclub once, had on a tanktop I do 260 pushups in 3 sets, the girls were all feeling up on me as I passed by from area to area lol. Now.. speaking from a non-game point of view; what would you rather have: strength, stamina, endurance and feel great.. or put on a lousy hat with goggles on.

I've had girls comment on how muscled I am, and I'm not even near how buffed I wish to be. But I do look athletic, you can see I worked out, and practice other sports several times a week.

But that isn't an IOI, beeing buff alone will just get you attention, enough dudes are buff. You have to peacock aswell. Look at Matador, he's really buff and doesn't hide it, but still peacocks.

If you're that buff, don't hide it, use it. But don't count only that.

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Saying you HAVE to peacock is like saying, hey, "hold on bro, im gonna go put on some of my rediculous items so that maby it will help me get some pussy tonight." That is mystery/ strauss style. Their program isn't the ONLY way to be amazing with women. Its optional. They also tell you specific orders to do specific things to seduce a woman. When that is optional as well. They are fucking confusing all these men and dont even know it.

Is it just me, or does anyone else remember reading in "The Game" about how Mystery kept telling Style that appearance is also a part of the game and how he should get a tan and start working out?

I'd say being fit and in-shape is way better than peacocking. I myself am working out for quite some time now, and must say that i feel way better knowing that i look good naturaly, without any ludacris flashy clothes and so on...Those are just an extra to fit the occasion

Game is not about muscles but it helps

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getting ripped, is a form of peacocking....but its not the MOST powerful.

Solved.

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AA? : In life, it's the man who is willing to die, who always wins.

Yeah its true naturals get women without doing much, advertising a bit of muscle and hair gets them a long way, but thats because they are naturally confident and have the body language and club conditioning that goes with it. My friend is a natural he does it all the time, besides women love strong men and men in positions of power! I have a police officer friend who women flirt with all the time, he dosnt have to do much at all!

Now if you use peacocking ie a cool unique avatar which stands you out from the rest, not by making you look silly but genuinely pulls you apart, with a pair of yellow leather shoes or something that looks like its from a story, and you exert that positive vibe which you get through talking to people, I don’t see how you’d have a problem getting any girl.

Yeah certain women will go for certain guys, allot of women love buff guys, just like allot of women love certain peacocked guys. But that very same avatar he has blows him out with other women right away.

In a club scenario the natural buff guy would have a girl come to him hed make out with her then other girls would see it, thats social proof, then they would come to him, so on.. This could easily by triggered in other means too, its not just muscles. The guy is just sparking anomalies. That’s what the whole peacocking thing is supposed to do anyway, get that spark that will light the fire. With every passing girl that comes to him he will exert a more confident body and vibe, women feel that!

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Back, starting over as of 2012.

I would say that looks are important but not the most important thing in the game. I'm tall, have dark hair and eyebrows, blue eyes, masculine face and a perfectly shaped body. I have worked as a model and still partly do it. So I have an easy time getting a SHB9 or even an SHB10 interested in me because of my looks. Many times she is the one gaming me and not me her. Therefore I don't need negs to get her. In other words I could get pretty much anyone of the hottest girls at a party without much effort but I have a problem...

I usually keep a low profile, often come across as shy and soft-spoken. So my problem is my inner game. I'm working on that. So if anyone would ask me what is even more important than looks I would say that having a great inner game is even more important than having great looks.

http://forums.johnstonefitness.com/


Go get ripped

this is a sick thread. totally agree with the OP

old thread i know, but I feel strongly about it. my idea on the topic is this- Most of us get into the community because being "ourselves" doesnt attract women. And then we find out about hygiene,that nose and back hair are not acceptable, being well groomed and being presentable is important. Its about putting your best self forward, and i think that applies to your body as well. A fit body conveys 1. you have dedication 2. you take your health seriously 3. your probably good in the sack.

im not saying those things are true, but those are assumptions that are generally accepted in our society.

So, in short, working out and being fit does 2 things for you. It prolongs your life, and it puts you out there showing your true potential.

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"fighting on the internet is like participating in the special olympics. win or lose, at the end of the day, your still retarded." - Me

Don't work out just to get girls...work out for yourself and for a healthier lifestyle. This attitude will result in women being all over you and your confidence sky rocketing.

7 Months, 30 pounds heavier and i'm as confident as ever. Surprising and pleasing the women this way are just excellent bonuses of working out.

If anyone needs help with a workout routine/diet or advice on working out pm me. I'll do my best to help.

If working out to get women is your motivation, then what is so wrong with that? Saying you shouldn't do it just for that reason is BS imo.

Alot of peeps have said, if you're going to work out, do it for your health and your sense of well being, and getting girls should be an added bonus. Why can't the reason be the girls, and the health and sense of well being be the bonus? Does it really matter?

And as for the looks being a small part of it all, yes this is true, however it doesnt hurt to be in great shape to help get your foot in the door!

Personally, i'm not in shape, i smoke, i'm short, i'm balding, and i'm hairy. Since working out can take care of one of those problems i have, then i'll take it. Of course i can change a few of those other things as well, and definately plan to, but since i dont have much to work with as it is, and i'm using the getting girls as a motivation factor for, well frankly, most of those things, is that so wrong? All the other stuff is also important to me, but not the primary reason.

Point here being, whatever your motivation is doesnt really matter, so long as you follow through with it and recognize the extra stuff for some boosted drive to get where you want to be.


PS: As for the buff vs peacock stuff, sorry but i think buff is gonna win it out. We've all seen it time and again where the buff guy is gonna get alot more girls than the peacocked guy, and frankly saying that peacock is better is just a rationization for those that arent buff and dont want to spend the time to get buff, or even a little bit in shape. Get off the keyboard and in a gym! Generally speaking of course