So I understand that a weak frame can cause all kinds of problems. It can wreak havoc on existing relationships, as well as any potentials out there.

I normally have pretty good control over my frame. However, lately my frame has been shaken by a woman I have been dating lately. I know it is the type of relationship that we have that is causing it, I just cant seem to pull myself up again. Its almost as if its a slippery slope and once your frame slips, it keeps slipping away. I find this happens most often when Im with a girl I really like. If I dont really care about her, I dont put a whole lot into it and it only makes my frame stronger.

I need some help getting a hold of things. Any good exercises or affirmations or anything you guys can recommend.

Stop careing.

I'm currently dating a really cute chick, and I'd love to have her as my GF.. but I just don't give a fuck. I know that I will get her by not giving a fuck :'D.

If you WANT her, you will LOSE her. Well, not really, since AFC's can pull it off, you can want her and not lose her. However, the % drops.

Be the one to stop hugging/kissing first. Don't be the one that sends the last text, or replies within 2minutes. Take a step back. Not saying you should slow things down here, but stop being a wussy. Keep it cool.

I sometimes use: "I do not let outside events take control of my emotions in a negative way - I am in control of them". She does something, you might feel bad, and do whats "right". I.e. she withdraws attention, you chase it. No-no.

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Style: Who do you think lies more...
DeAngelo: What's up fool?
AFC: Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?

thats easy....your dont care you said when your dont care about the girl but when you find someone you like your frame slips and thats cause you dont want to lose her...


well heres a news flash im sure you knew your acting like a bitch frame slippery slope kind of stuff is gonna end your relationship, from you acting like an afc if you dont stop...

stop caring to a point you can get the frame back up.....its all in the end you dont wanna ruin the good thing you ahve but by playing it safe im sure eventually something will go wrong

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How You Approach Is A Matter Of How You Feel "mPUA Savior"

You Live What You've Learned

Thanks, you both pretty much clarified what I knew to be the problem. I guess at this point is it too late? Did I already ruin the good thing or can I just pull back a bit?

You can pull it back, just start implementing the tactics Facher mentioned, they work. I've been in a long term relationship with an HB9 and I use them all the time.

If she calls, I don't automatically pick up, I'll let the phone ring then call her back 30 minutes to an hour later and say 'hey, i noticed you called'. It may not seem like a big deal to us, but mentally she is asking herself 100 questions as to why i didn't pick up. Perfect...


'when a guy as low Interest Level, he does everything right'. -the system

Let that sink in...

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Great tips guys!

I appreciate it and I know that even though we all know what to (or at least we are learning what to do), its not always easy to do the right thing. Sometimes we slip and do the absolute wrong thing.

Any other suggestions are appreciated. I love affirmations and think they truly do work. Does anyone have any more?

She is only a grain of sand on an endless beach. Not enough to fill even the smallest jar. Lost among the infinite abundance.

A man is as old as he feels, and a woman is as old as she looks - Anonymous.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Dont sweat the petty stuff, just pet the sweaty stuff--anonymous