You see, currently I'm going to go out with these two girls. (Not on the same day)

I need advice on how to go for a kiss, make out with them without any fail.
Let's say if I put my face close to her face, I might have a chance of fail.

I can't just talk to her for awhile and just straight away kiss her.. I'm afraid that it will fail and mess up the rest of the day where I'm with her. I need something that would make her want to make out with me as well.
And may I know if I can make out very long period with her? Or I can't do it for too long.

And I need to know the timing and when to kiss her and a good place to do it. The place I'm going will be a mall and have a park outside.
I would choose the park, but I don't really know what to talk to her. And keep the conversation going, and kiss her afterwards.
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Girl 1 =
A girl I don't really know that well. And just met. I only want to kiss her.

Girl 2, HB7 =
I know this girl for awhile already. I want to have a relationship with her (of course not a serious one I will date other girls as well). But she's not that easy. She's quite picky. She is attracted to only good looking guys. She only wants to have a relationship with a guy she really love. And I don't know how in a day I can make her mine. And I want to kiss her too. But I don't know if it's a good idea. She is not really the slutty kind, the horny ones and perverted ones. She is very picky and will only do it with someone she really loves.
She has never date anyone before too, although she's hot.

Her current situation now I got from her, she likes this guy i don't know. who she thinks he is good looking. But that guy always not serious and say " i love you too", " i want you too" jokingly and stuff like that.

When she mentioned about him.
I said "We don't need him", "Forget about him"
she said "but I need him".
Then, I didn't know how to counter that.

The thing is I want to get rid of that guy she likes, and make her my girl.

Help..?

She is very picky and will only do it with someone she really loves.

No, she will only do it with someone she is 'attracted' to, she will only do it with guys that have her IL sky rocketing. She might mistake it for 'love' (or at least that is what she's telling you), but it all comes down to how you make her feel.

The right time to kiss a girl is when her IL is high. If she is 'feeling you', any place is the right place.

You need to work on building ATTRACTION.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

Nothing has no chance of failure. If someone tells you differently, then they're full of shit. If you aren't man enough to risk rejection, then you're not man enough to deserve success.

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Thanks guys.
But I'm quite unsure what to do now..
I can get their phone numbers and stuff. But I want beyond than that..
I don't have skills and techniques to do so..

If you keep bouncing the "other guy" ball back to her court, she's ALWAYS going to continue with this topic. Just DROP IT. That's how you "forget about him". You don't forget about him by telling her to "forget about him". You do it but ACTUALLY forgetting about him and moving onto another topic. Get it?

Also . . . use the search function. Plenty of threads about K closing. Here's one:
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I recommend you do some research. Download some pdfs on attraction and confidence.

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Keep people off-balance and in the dark by never revealing the purpose behind your actions. - Robert Greene

I would definitely look into kino if you're worried about rejection. If you make touching a big deal, there is going to be that awkwardness when going for a kiss. If you get her comfortable to you touching her then a kiss becomes no big deal. Gaming should never be a big deal. Keep that mindset and you'll have success.