Hey guys, new to the forum and the community. However, I've gotten the basics down pretty solid in the past couple of weeks.

The current problem I am having to deal with involves 2 HBs, one who I have known for awhile and had a crush on when I was a super AFC, and one who just got broken up with by a good friend of mine.

HB 1 (who I haven't seen in awhile since I went to college) recently started talking to me again and, after a few parties asked me out on a date (lucky). The date went really well however it was lunchtime and since everyone is at their parent's house due to it being summer I had no place to kiss close (and I'm still lacking some balls). I am seeing a movie with her tomorrow.

HB 2 got broken up with a week ago and I have been hanging out with her because she doesn't have too many friends in the town and I made a good impression and got her number the first couple of times I saw her. I went over to her house tonight, got a boatload of IOIs, and then left without kiss closing again (once again, parents house, her mom was super protective and I could get upstairs. Also I'm still a pussy when it comes to kiss closing.)

My problem is this - I really don't know the best way to lead to a kiss close with either of them. I have an apartment in town so parents wouldn't really be a deal as long as they are at my place. My question is just what would be the best way to get either of them over and, having that accomplished, kiss close. I'm near certain that both have interest in me.

Also, this isn't really a PUA question more of a moral one, but should I feel bad for going for HB 2 when her ex(of a week) is a good friend? He told me what she does and what I do is our own business right now but I can tell it's bullshit and he would be pissed at me if I went for it.

Thanks a bunch guys, I really love the fact that I found the PUA community (as I wouldn't be in a situation like this at all if it wasn't for PUA knowledge) and I'm looking forward to refining my game.

weak

if you're saying 'weak' because you haven't gotten a reply yet, even though you only posted a couple of days ago..... you aren't going to make many friends around here.

It was more in jest but I can see how it could come across as being a whiny bitch. Not a big deal imo.

My best tip here would be: Bros over hoes on one of the cases, on the next one, you said you got shitloads of IoI's? but your always beeing interfered or lack the balls to k-close..well, next time you feel the tension for a kiss, get her eye contact..and keep it for awhile..now throw a fast look at her lips then bam up to eyes again, this is pretty solid and will let her know you want to kiss girls do this all the time, hate it! but hell lets do the same thing right back at em, so try it if she still does'nt get it go in a C&F kind of way and say something in the line of; Hey! dont you get it I am trying to kiss you here!


SF

sound advice, thanks man things are lookin good so far =)

i reckon the guy is tryin to save face by sayin its her problem.
he'd probli tell you its no big deal if u kissed her but it sting him.
thats only my 2cents.

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