Hey guys,

Definitely new to the PUA thing, and was looking for some suggestions.

I don't have problem meeting women, talking to them or getting to know them. My sticking point is showing them I'm interested. I fear I become the new "LJBF"

The reason I'm posting in this section is because I've gotten to day 2 and I'm fucking stumped.

I met this girl on a flight, we connected, although more intellectually as far as I can tell - I'm not sure if I picked up any IOI's because I am especially thick. I got her number.

I went to visit her, candle lit dinner, her roommate stayed elsewhere, went back to her place she stripped down to get into her pj's almost right in front of me, back turned. For whatever reason I was getting mixed signals still and had no balls to do anything about it, and having just recently learned more about PUAs I didn't know what to do at that time. Nothing happened.

As it were, I am in the vicinity again and she expressed interest in me coming to stay for a weekend with her. I'm determined not to fuck this up again. But what the fuck do I do?

I can be charming, humorous, and keep a conversation going forever - but I'm really thick, no matter how many books on body language I read, I just end up over-analyzing the whole thing and ruining my chances. I'm my own worst enemy.

Any suggestions for my weekend to come? I want this girl.

Thanks guys.

You need to step out of your comfort zone man.

Kino kino kino and esacalate. Don't read too many books, don't overanalayze. Just remember that you are a really cool guy, and that she must really enjoy being with you.


Go for it. If she turns you down, freeze-out. go caveman and make her want you to come back with you. just be prepared to make mistakes and lose her, because you will never learn otherwise.

Girls can spot wether you are nervous because you want to get with her, thing is, she is waiting for you to make the first move.

^Precisely said in a nutshell. I totally agree. If she strips in front of you, that is literally her way of saying "FUCK ME NOW, PLEASE, I BEG YOU"

You're damn lucky she didn't give up on you after you failed that time!

So, you spending a weekend with her is code for "we're gonna fuck this time!"

So do it, if you don't, you're out. The dude above me is right, make sure you're kino-ing from the beginning to make it natural. Make your conversations more sexual and about love and attraction. Lean in really close to her sometimes to build sexual tension, other times stay back and act disinterested. During the leaning in times, if she leans in to, then you go even further. Every time she matches you, you take it a step up. When it gets to the point where you can't go any further without kissing, you just say "you know you have really beautiful lips". Wait for an instant, if she does ANYTHING but move back, then kiss her.

By the way if her buying temperature is high then say "you know you have really fucking beautiful lips". It just works better =).

If she rejects your kino, freeze out, maybe neg, DHV, then try again. Go 2 steps back and 1 step forward. Oh and remember, if you don't fuck her this weekend you've probably lost the set!

1. relax 2.kino your ass off. 3. build sexual tension
good luck dude im sure it ll go fine

im Loving your avatar *randon*

Update:

It was an interesting weekend.

We met up, hung out - things were going well, and as I expected them to. Around about the time we went for dinner, I was definitely stepping up my game. I DHV'd, kino'd, and neg'd when I felt it was appropriate and I was being as hilarious and smooth as I have ever been. I was on fire.

Now I had mentioned before that I'm pretty thick to signals. But not this time. There is no doubt in my mind this girl is into me. She was giving me IOI's out the window.

So we decided to go out to the club that night, and she was leading me around by the hand and we were shredding up the dance floor. Life was good. She wanted me.

So after being at the club for awhile I was going to go for a K-close. I took my moment when she said to me "So what do you want to do now?" and I said "This...." and I kissed her.

I was ready for one of two things. Either she would pull away and give me the LJBF routine... or she would kiss me back.

She did neither. I kissed her, she looked at me, took me by the hand like she did all night, and we left the club. So my initial reaction was that this was a good thing, but then we got out and all of a sudden there was this awkward not speaking about what just happened, how's the weather conversation.

I was totally confused and thrown off my game. We went back to her place, had a few more drinks and passed out.

Day 2

Started out fairly normal, we spent the day hanging out 1 on 1 , again I was DHV, little bit of kino, negging when appropriate.

We go for dinner. Fucking great dinner. We couldn't shut up, the signals and IOI's were flying out the window again, and we were both starting to get a little drunk. Dinner concluded, and we walked back to her place again, stopping only to occasionally wrestle in the park.

We get back to her place, bust out the wine and we're hanging out with her friend who's decorating. So she's all over me again, she's in one chair, I'm in the other and she has her legs resting over me. We'd wrestle more, etc etc.

So she takes off for a few and I'm chatting with her friend. Suddenly she comes around the corner in a smoking hot dress and says "hey lets go crash this party that's going on downstairs"

Fucking A. So I peacock it up, I look fabulous. Her friends say my attire will never fly and I'll get bounced. I tell them they've never been to a party with me before, "I just don't get bounced."

(FYI: her friends kept dropping not so subtle, round -about hints. Asking me things like "So, Mr.Sidewinder, planning on picking up any ladies at this party tonight.")

So we end up crashing this Christmas charity ball. All the ladies at the ball are totally into my peacocking, and pictures ensue. So her and I start dancing it up again. IOI's and everything are there.

We leave the dance, go back to her place, and I'm thinking that I should have made a move at the dance or the park at this point but I was still hesitant from the whole "nothing happened" from the night before.

By the time I had manned up to do anything about it, she had fallen asleep. Fuck.

Day 3

We go for breakfast with her friends. I can't seem to pull her away from them. We hang out for most of the day, and then go shopping and for dinner with her friends again. I can't get her away.

So finally it's time for me to leave. And she walks me outside. So I'm thinking this is my last chance, and certainly not how I wanted to play this all out, but fuck I had to do something.

So I had planned to say: "You know, about the other night, I couldn't tell if you liked it when I kissed you, because if you didn't, you better stop me now" and then I was going to kiss her. But no sooner did I say "... couldn't tell if you liked it when I kissed you." that she cut me off and said. "I'm just not looking for anything right now."

bullshit.

2 long hugs, and I was on my not so merry fucking way.

So now, we have plans that I'm going to come up again a couple of weekends from now to go to a big party together. We also have plans over Christmas break to do some overnight skiing. (These plans were made on the first night prior to me kissing her - I assume they still stand)

Have I completely lost this set? Is it recoverable? What kind of game is she playing? Is she giving me my 3rd shot? Is it possible not to fuck this shit up again?

Mr. Sidewinder is confused. Help!

(sorry for the wall of text)

I hate mixed signals, man, and that's what it looks like to me. Then again, pretty sure I'm still an AFC. So who's the Master PUA that's gonna step up and let the rest of us know what the hell is going on here?

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this is kinda weird. sounds like a large scale LMR..

Yeah, she's definitely got me confused. I feel like she's disarmed me a little, but I have to get back in there.

Any masters out there know what the heck is going on?

Just whip out your dick and see what happens

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Its not about how you fall...its about how you pick yourself up after you've fallen

nothing in this world thats worth having comes easy

But honestly after reading your post, it just reads HESITATION!! This is one of the most unattractive qualities in an alpha male. Alpha males DO, they dont think about doing. You finally got the balls to go and kiss her (mad props) but it might have been too little too late. Girls are strange in that if you kiss too early its not good, but if you also wait too long, they lose interest and move on.

You might have entered the dreaded waters of LJBF, but I would not give up hope just yet. She still said she would meet up with you but DONT let her play you. She has ALL the power right now and your just swimming along hoping she will give in and LET you hook up. Make yourself the prize. When she said she wasnt looking for anything you should then reply, "I'm not looking for a relationship either, just someone interesting and fun to hang out with"

If nothing else look at this as a learning experience. Its ok to make mistakes, because it means your that much closer to success. Good luck!

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Rise up, rise up, rise up

Its not about how you fall...its about how you pick yourself up after you've fallen

nothing in this world thats worth having comes easy

ok ok first of all ask yourself how bad you want this girl? If you do cool but this may take a lot of work. Your obvisiously really in the LJBF spot and that can be tough to get out of. First of all keep doing what you did on your day 1,sounded like things where going great. Except look at the definition of DHV. DHVing is not nessacarly being 'cool' or 'funny'. it means that you are a valuble and RARE guy. You are the prize here and not her. I would also try to make it well known about any other girls you are with but be careful not to be a jerk about it cause thats a fine line.

Maybe you should get out of this game.
I'd say, woman sometimes try to feel themselves valuables. Like, if someone is hang in out with her, that means she's interesting. Even more when you said you kissed her and after her reaction ( or no reaction ) you stayed there for her, without even sayin' anything about it.

So this is my advise: back off for a while, if you still wanna be a pick up artist. Man, you have value, you have OPTIONS. She's not the only HB in the world, and you gotta let her and yourself to know this.
So keep sarging, answer to her when she asks for your attention. But for now, you have to let her now, what were your intentions. You were looking for a girl, and not for a friend. Just remind this!!!

So you gotta act like a fisher now. Just throw the bait ( sometimes send sms, or whatever ), if she bites fine. If she doesn't, don't keep wasting time.

And please, don't even think about of regreting your actions. You need to be confident. Your actions will have a little more chances to be sucessful if you do this way.

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hahaha risen i literally almost shit myself with laughter from the just whip your dick out comment. good shit.