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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:50 am 
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For example as you learn PUA, you start to think you have to have a come back for every girl (depending on the situation) because every girl is probably shit testing you. So you get cynical instead of enjoying the moment/interaction. Or, you don't get cynical but it's a rule that guys must live by, they must realize the nature of women. And when they realize that all is good, nothing to get cynical about.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:06 am 
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When starting out it can, especially when using structured methods like Mystery's. Speaking from my own experience, I have transitioned from consciously competent to unconsciously competent. I know the outlines, rules, structures, and principles confidently so now I just focus on my inner game while my outer game takes care of itself.

I am probably a lot less cynical now than I was before I ever learned the art form. With my new understanding of social dynamics, everything appears much more clear than it ever did before. Every AFC or anyone who does not understand this stuff has a skewed map of reality. Through failures and reactions of others, they tend to backwards rationalize what they see in order to fit into the map. This makes them very cynical by creating social myths like "women only want tall, rich, attractive guys" and allows men to live in their own self-fulfilled prophecy that they just aren't meant to be successful with women. Learning about game makes men's thought processes and outlooks on women tend to be much more healthy and less cynical in my opinion.

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Well, everybody have their own ways to game... But cynical, not really. I see every sarge as the chance to meet people and to have fun! If the girl does not go home with me in the end it is all right.
I am having the time of my life just talking to them!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:21 am 
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Its like driving a car, every car needs to be turned on, has a gas pedal etc but thats just the standard part of the interaction (this is pure shit test area), when you get to the real interaction driving fast or whatever floats your boat, that is the real experience.

The shields and niceties of conversation are pretty much universal you need to bypass them and in my opinion the quicker the better, then you can really get to know the person and interact

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