I went out to a strip club last night with two friends, I was a little drunk (around 6-7 beers in 6 hours) so I don't remember everything I said and did...but I think I did pretty well...you tell me.

So as we were drinking and having fun at the table, one stripper came and sat next to me asking me if I wanted a dance or to buy her a drink, and I said no...but I told her she could buy me one if she wanted, she started laughing and told me that's the first time she heard that...so we talked for a while...I was trying to get her to the moment where I could ask her if she was an adventurous girl...because I wanted to run her the 5 questions test (you ask the girl 5 questions and you tell her that the answer must not be a right answer) and by bidding a drink or a dance if she completes the test succesfully...of course she got the 4th question wrong like the majority of people...but she refused to buy me a drink or to give me a free dance...because she says I tricked her..and she didnt knew that the 4th question was a real one...so anyways..it stays like that for a while, then an other stripper comes and sit next to my friends..and the first stripper didn't liked her...so she tells me..."ok i'll give you a free dance...IF you tell that girl to go away" so that's what I did...and she gave me that free dance. (god she was HOT)

Then we continued talking, and I was teasing and negging her constantly...she told me several times that I was the funniest and cockiest guy she's ever saw in this place and that I should come back to see her and that the next time she might give me her phone number because she never gives it the first time...But I told her, in a joking way, that I would never come back and if she wants to see me again, she must give me her number right now...she refused and she said with a smile "if you don't come back it's too bad for you"...and I told her "You mean it's too bad for YOU" and then we had to leave.

So what should I do ?...I'm really tempted to go back there again next weekend and try to make something happen, but if I go there..will I be seen as a weak begging for her to give me her phone number ?...but if I don't go...well nothing will happen that's for sure...So I think i'll go back but I need the right tools to make something happen...any suggestions ?

If you do go back to the strippers bring your friends again. I don't think it will come off like you are begging for her number. Strippers are people too, it's just they get paid alot of money to get naked. If you wanted to go back don't even bring up getting her number, if she doesn't give out her number the first time she will probley bring it back up. I am just guessing here though. A possible outcome could be...

Stripper: So you came back, You must really want my number.

You: Your number? Oh right I forgot all about that I just actually came her to see some breasts.

or

You:Well you might get lucky and I will get your number tonight

Thats how I would play it, I mean after all she is just another girl... but strippers are fun to date. I haven't had the pleasure... yet. But my buddies have... bastards

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1) "But I told her she could buy me one if she wanted, she started laughing and told me that's the first time she heard that" --Great way to start

2) Getting her to give you a free dance, very nice, it makes her feel she has to validate herself to you instead you handing over money for a service.

3) Everything you did was clutch, all good moves. As far as her not giving her number out on the first time, shit happens, and girls have rules like that sometimes....

My advice..go back, and tell her this.

"Its too bad for both of us that I left and wasn't coming back to see you again. But then I thought about it and decieded it would be GOOD for the both of us if I had your number."

it might be a longshot, but its clever enough to work, its worked on a stripper named amber who did the same exact thing to me, i mean almost exactly. when i went back the second time, i only went to get her number, i barely was there longer than 20 minutes.

maybe this will help ya, good luck

every girl is hot when she's naked ( especially when ur drunk!). "i dnt give out my number in my first meeting?" that was a test,she wanted to see how you gonna react. or either she has a boy friend. u did well in the beginning. if she was interested in having a date with u she would have given you her number. i had the same encounter in a club once. i did all the things required to attract her and when i was about to number-close, she told me she didnt have a phone n i should come next week and she would give it to me. i l8ter discovered that she had a boy friend whom she was waitng for at the club. y go out with a stripper while you can attract any girl you wnt. my suggestion is to go out and look for a hot decent girl ( but naughty in bed ).

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Well, she told me she had no boyfriend and it seemed true, but maybe it's just a trick to bring me back there too...anyway...I don't want to overthink the situation...so I think I'll go back with some other friends, since the friends I was with the last time, one of them is back to Calgary, and the other rarely goes out...so I'll go and just stay for a few minutes to get her phone number, talk a little then leave.

dnt 4get 2 give us the feed back!

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Update : Failure...

Here's what happened, I just came back from there with 2 friends of mine. we arrived around 11h30 pm..she fisrt saw me around midnight when she was on stage performing, she gave me a surprised look...like she was happy to see me. So about 30 minutes later she comes to see me and we talked normally about usual boring stuff, I negged her a couple of time, but she wasn't receptive...I think she even got a bit pissed about it because she told me something like, "I'm in a happy mood tonight,please don't ruin it" then she asked me if I wanted a dance, and I said no unless it's free like the other time because I never pay for a dance (of course that's false but she doesn't know it) so she said that she could not do it this time...that the other time she felt different about it. And of course this time I had nothing in exchange to offer her, she even made friend with that other girl she hated. So I understand her, I can't just..get a free dance like that without giving something in exchange...and the club was full so she told me she had to work more than the other time...because last week it was almost empty so she had lots of time to be with me, now she spent it all with one group of around 5 guys and one girl...and I think she got 2 dances out if it during the time we were there.

So that's it basically...I guess the last week mood wasn't just here anymore, I didn't even wanted her to ask her her phone number because I felt it was useless and I couldn't find the right moment to ask her. But I thought I could do her a MAJOR neg by asking a dance to an other stripper in front of her and see what happens, but I wasn't sure of the results and the stripper I wanted was always busy, so I just told myself, it's not worth it (a dance at that club is 20$ by the way) And I didn't wanted to sarge an other one because I was afraid it would just be the same thing than with the first one, and all I could ever get would may be a free dance. So we left at around 1h30 am...because we just got bored.

So what I learned from that experience is that if I ever had a real chance to get her number it would have been last week when the mood and my moves were right. I also think I may have tried the stripclub thing a bit to early, I mean I'm really not experienced in all this so I can't expect having results the first time I try...even more in a stripclub where the rules are different. I will try that again of course, but when I'll be more confortable in the game, for now I think I'll just practice on normal clubs and bars.

What do you guys think of all this ? did I made any bad moves ? not enough moves ? any suggestion for the next time I decide to do that ? (I should get more experienced by that time)

My 2 cents...Negging her after her qualifying to you (free dance) might have been the downfall. Paying for a dance could have been an IOI from you...she would have hung out with you after the dance and things could have progressed from there.

Bro, here was the bad move...

You gamed a stripper.

But after that, look, why do you think she wanted you to come back a second time? Because like any business you need repeat customers to survive.

Now don't get me wrong, your game was good. You built up great attraction with your negs, dhv spikes, etc...however for the sake of pretending this was an available girl, you may have been a little short on the value and comfort side of things. Something that connected on a deeper plane, something that hooked her, because that attraction is the air for the balloon, but without that comfort to tie it, she's going to forget she was ever full of air by the next day.

An odd analogy but I think you get me.

Lots of good work there though, some good lessons as well.

Hope some of this is useful.

Peace

Good thing you answered this post Chinaski. Wow, I'm sure your advice helped out a lot nearly 2 years later...

Chief is going to kick your ass!

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-That's my two cents...

Hired Guns are the hardest to game (esp strippers cause they purposly give you false IOIs to make you come back.)

My advice: If your gonna try and game a stripper you HAVE to get her number that same night. If she wants you to come back shes just trying to get your cash.

i just feel bad for Chinaski, because it was a pretty detailed reply

If the topic is already alive, then I'll also add my cents for appraching strippers.
Her job it to make guy feel good about the place, so she played as if she was taken by your approach, makes you feel that you're good PUA. Most guys are taken by that and she is an expert in gaming. Imagine that if she's good then most guys in the room thinks their special to her, and that she cannot wait when she would give them her number
So to sum up. The sentence 'I might give you my number but the other time' is what most of guys hear from her.

ajajaja! yall are cruel

my opinion is along the same lines. no need to overneg.

you had followed the guidelines for a1 - a2, but you basically just skipped past a3 man. now, i wouldnt have paid for a dance, but i would have rewarded her for being a good girl, and thus conveyed interest in her