If it's possible to get a stranger into the "lay zone", then I'd think it would be possible to pull yourself out of the "friend zone" (even if a long-time friend) and back into the "lay zone". What's the process you guys recommend for this? Does anyone have any stories to share?

Cheers,
Gruuve

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Divorced dude having a good life.

The friend zone is nearly impossible to get out of without destroying the relationship and all hopes for future sexual relations. you pretty much have to just be a straight up OG that makes baller status look like cake, being loaded would help too.

so yeah unless you're the freshest motherfucker to step on the earth and roll a bentley, have fun with that.

but hey there are always exceptions

I wouldnt say u have to be wealthy to get out of the friends zone. what you need to do is re-frame urself, the girl that has been ur friend for a long time thinks she knows u well, show her she doesnt. change up ur style a little, maybe a new dew or lose the spare-tire. U must change how you see urself before she will see you differently. I would amp up the kino when u are around her, almost to an uncomfortable level, but pull back when necessary. this will slowly build sexual tension between the two of that eventually will have to be confronted. The possibilities for a relationship would def end your friendship, but why not talk her into being friends with benefits. women love to have sex too, they just dont want their dirty laundry out in public. Build a trust between the two of u. Then go for it, if she's ur friend she wont hate you for at least trying.

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I SERIOUSLY disagree. 99/100 all LJBF is is failure to attract. You have the comfort. Because she wants to be your friend. Dude just hit the DHVs, neg, look for physical IOI's, or SOI's and dont give in until her attraction for you is more than clear. Reverse the roles and values. Make sure you have lots of compliancy tests.

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Invite said girl to a movie, as friends, and show up with another girl. A little jealousy goes a long way.

This may be my first post, and I'm new to the scene, but I can definitely agree with Prolific's recommendations about reframing the relationship and upping the kino. I just broke up with a long time girlfriend several weeks ago, and have escalated one friendship into a long makeout session, and another longtime friend into a f-close. I think that it can be much harder to get though the Friend Zone with some women than with others, though.

Hey man...would you give us more details on these last two? Examples maybe?

Thx!
Gruuve

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Divorced dude having a good life.

Ive tried to get out of the friend zone twice, and twice, no matter what i did i recieved something like
"Whats gotten into you?"
"You've been acting really strange lately, i dont like it"
so unless your into the whole awkward friend-sex thing, i reccommend to just go after strangers. The amount of trouble and time you will go through you can focus on another girl. In the end you can still have a long-term relationship & keep your good friend.

That means you're on the right track my friend

They're used to the old AFC you and that want to keep it that way, you are changing and ofcourse they're gonna perceive it, you gotta be dedicated or you can easily (and i mean easily) fall back to the way it was.

That's why its recommend to space you're self for a while.

For a friend . Ok. Think of everything you would think that a girl would feel. Say for example your walking through a alleyway. She may not feel safe with you - maybe she thinks your going to try it on.
PUA: Hey ive heard of you guys before, luring people like me down these places. Good thing ive got my panic alarm on me.

This is just a quick example. Im in a rush.

compliancy tests -
ok there are some real good ones - make sure the ones that YOU use are more than friendly kino. Do this by touching areas that friends dont usually touch. But reverse the role.
PUA: takes HER hand and puts it on YOUR OWN knee, while facing her, sitting down. If she leaves her hand on there once youve taken your own off of hers - count about 7 seconds and if its still on there then reward her with an IOI. If she takes her hand off then face your legs away from her and shut your body language off. She mayy have to of gone inside her bag or something - so when you do face away - if she asks whats up or engages you in conversation - instant IOI. Do it again 30 seconds later. This is an alteration of mysterys.
Sorry if this seems rushed man,

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