i was shopping today and i saw like 10 hb7-10s i want to go and talk but they were all with their mothers
i always seem to see hot girls with there mothers it completely sucks becausei feel like i have to make myself look good in front of the mom like a respectable young man whos not trying to screw her daughter.
Does anyone have any advice for my age (16).

cheers

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Why So Serious?

I like to use situational openers. an example is.

Hey I need a female opinion on this. Do I look better in a red or green shirt...

In reality the opener does not matter.

I've opened sets with ridiculous statements like "I like ketchup"

Go out into the field and all the answers you seek will be delivered to you.

sometimes their mothers will open the girl for you if you can get atthe mother

i sold womens' shoes this summer and that happened all the time. as long as i didnt hit on the girls first their mothers would eventually try to hook their daughters up wiht me

yeah but if the mothers hook me up wont the girl think im a dork?

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Why So Serious?

I agree it might end up looking a bit on the dorky side.
You need to get the mother to like you, but I'd recommend not focusing on the mother, after all, you want to pick up the HB, right?

First off I'd recommend you go very-low-key on your openers and make sure everything you do comes in under the radar. Be a sweetie and DHV yourself as a respectable young man. Do NOT mention anything sexual. Remember you're hitting on their baby girl. The mother is more likely to pick up on obvious tactics and she won't like it.

Don't go for anything other than a number close here, you kiss the girl when you two first meet, and the mother will HATE you.

Watch the mother carefully for clues on when she likes you and when she doesn't. Use those to know when you can push and when you need to back off. Obey those cues.

Use situational openers, maybe opinion ones, but keep everything 100% low-key. And be prepared that if the mother doesn't like you, you need to get out.

In short, watch out and play it safe.

Cinnamon

Open set, canned or situational opener. Drop a neg on the target, and DHV to the mother. Treat set as normal, but keep the dialogue non sexual as to not offend the mother. (Trying to shag her daughter hits a nerve)

*Do not use smashing windows DHV story, It makes the mother very concerned/ protective*

i would open up the mother first . You can use this i call it my "its my mothers/sister Bday opener"

You: "excuse me Ma'am but I like the (pick something she is wearing or have) you are wearing/ have and i was wondering we're you got it? My moms bday is coming up and i wanna get her something nice"

Even for being a mom she would be flattered. So now you are in the set, keep building rapport with the mother. Once you build enough you can move on the daughter. Try to split them up somehow and then you can run your game. Becareful and pay attention to the mothers reaction. make it look like you are Acutally there to get help/ advice.

1) open the mom first
2) build alot of Rapport
3) DHV/ Win the moms Trust
4) split them up
5) game the Daughter.

good luck.

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couldnt you just make friends with their mum? and then work your way in? shed probz throw you at them.

Go direct. You'll win mom over FAST.

"Hey, I had to come over here because you are absolutely adorable...."

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Approach mother and daughter and open while looking at the mother:

"Oh my God! I know this is sooo random, but I noticed how gorgeous your daughter was as I walked passed and I just had to come over and say hi!"

For being so honest, you will shock both the mother and daughter and then build up comfort and rapport.

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tell them they look soo cute together, and it reminds you of when you take your gma out once a month, then throw in a little neg like, but me and grams are cuter we wear matching outfits, crazy silly ones like hers (point at the daughter) then tell her dont be upset cause you like silly things, start talking about cooking or clothes or something then ask the mom if you can barrow the daughter as a fashion consultant or whatever you used to talk about!

or you can try the
"take home chef approach"
where you go up to them and ask them if they have seen the show "take home chef" where basically this guy goes and asks girls if they will take him home to cook with them and inreturn he buys all necessities for the meal he will cook, tell them you have to start from scratch, and ask how many are in thier family if they comply tell them to follow you then take them to get some mac and cheese and grab a sufficient ammount of boxes to cook for thier family....they will think its funny and on occassion i have gone home with them that night.