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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 8:36 pm 
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Hey guys. ChuMp here.
So, in general, when calling up a girl and trying for day 2, would it be better to ask "Hey, wanna do something?" or tell "Hey, lets do something."
I always ask personally, but it hasn't been working as of late.

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They are not too different, but i see where you are going with this. i'll exaggerate the difference between the question and the command for purposes of securing a day 2(+)

Command: "Hey, let's do something" has a greater chance of success if she is free because it is confident, and alpha. however, if she is not free then she may feel like she is rejecting you. even if she's not rejecting you, she may still feel like she is. that could compromise your frame.

Question: "Hey, wanna do something?" has a lower chance of success because you are not being as confident alpha, and it is a little more needy. however, unlike the option 1 above, i think if she is not free, and can't hang out, she will feel less like she is rejecting you, and more like she was just letting you know she can't hang out.

I think the important thing to know is whether or not she is free. You should test the waters first by seeing what she is up to at that particular time. if she is free, be confident and go with the command. If you are unsure, then the question may show less of a commitment on your part, and therefore less of a rejection if she can't do it. if she feels like she's rejecting you, it could compromise your frame and hurt your chances next time you try it on her.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:15 pm 
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Hey guys. ChuMp here.
So, in general, when calling up a girl and trying for day 2, would it be better to ask "Hey, wanna do something?" or tell "Hey, lets do something."
I always ask personally, but it hasn't been working as of late.
Let me give you a different approach. One not so over-focused on closing the Day 2.

You should focus on the EMOTION the woman feels about you. If she feels curious, excited, happy, etc. when she's talking to you on the phone (and remembers feeling good talking to you the first time), she'll Day 2 with you. If she doesn't, she won't. Simple as that.

When I'm on the phone, the first thing I do is pick-up the banter/convo where it left off when we were talking last. I try to come up with nick-names for girls during our initial convo so that I can call them it on the initial phone call. I want to call up the emotions she was feeling when we had last talked.

I'll chat with her a little bit about what I'm doing or whatever. Usually real light and easy, sometimes even silly. Then I'll say, "Big plans <day I want us to hang out>?"

She'll say what she's planning. Or if she's free she'll say, "Not really.. no big plans."

Either way, I'll say, "OK, because on <that day> I am going to <go grocery shopping, get my car washed, etc.> and I want you to come with me. Listen, it's going to be really really exciting... My only fear is that you will get so excited, you won't be able to control yourself." (She'll be laughing...)

I usually do a solid job connecting with women during the initial convo, so that's part of it. If she wasn't feeling you in person, she DEFINITELY won't be feeling you on the phone. Set the stage for success.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:42 pm 
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Awesome advice guys, thanks a bunch.
I'll definitely have to use a mix of the two batches of advice you guys gave me. I'll play on the emotion I've built with whats-her-face, then ask or command based upon that.

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