First off, I am a rAFC trying to change, so bear with me...

So I went out with this HB8 two weeks ago and we hit it off real well, I got a lot of IOI's & Kino. However, I wasn't able to K-close her as we were in the city and I did not get a lone moment with her (We both live in the suburbs so meeting in the city makes sense). So we had that awkwad hug before we took our sperate trains home.

I called her last Sunday and invited her out to come shopping with me. It was a fun time and she picked out clothes that would fit me blah blah. Again lots of kino & hand holding...but no K-close as we were in the city again and there were too many people around - or maybe I'm just too AFC to K-close in public.

Note that on both dates we spent like 6-7 hours together, so I am kinda kicking myself for not k-closing here or more...

Anyway, yesterday I sent out a text message to her using Mehow's trick of pretending to message group and talking about the fun place I went to but I got no response back.

I have two questions:-
1) Do you think I should call here again to build more comfort? Or should I wait for her to initiate contact? If I do call should I just talk and not ask her out? (non-needy behavior)

2) What would be a good way to K-close here? I was just thinking of using Mystery's "Do you want to kiss me" or turn to a lonely street pull her close and go in for the kill.

Your help is much appreciated,
loneranger

Well, I just texted her at lunch time with "Hey cutie, I was just thinking about you..." picked that up from Lance Mason's pick-up 101. However, I did not get a reply back. I think I may have messed this one up big time. Time to move on? Where did I f*** up? Too needy? I actually thought that was a cool text to send out....

i would have tried something like "next time I see you, i'll do you the CUBE" or something that bring her curiosity, don't tell her what the cube is (if you don't know find about), or something a bit more C&F, she may have no reason to answer to "hey cutie...", not yet at least.
I has also worked well for me something like "I cooked/am cooking this..."
go on practicing.
have fun.

Hey, thanks for the feedback bud, I was just wondering...so what do I do now to recooperate? As I really like the girl but I think this whole thing has made her uncomfortable? I'm not sure if she is uncomfortable but her lack of response makes me think so... Cut my losses and move on? Is there anything I can do?

that's too bad bro. but yes, i would say move on. very close to one-itis, you are.

Yeah, I'm moving on. The thing is that this has happened to me 3 times already, I'm able to number close and get the girl on multiple dates, IOI's from her etc.

However, I act totally AFC and wait till like the 3-4 date to make out and by that time I think the girl loses interest and uncomfortability shoots right through the roof, so I just cut my losses and move on. Which is screwed up as I usually like the girls I date...yeah oneitis I know..

I guess, you live and you learn, I am going to try and escalate much sooner with the next girl. Can someone evaluate my pathetic "game" and let me know what I could have done better.

Thanks in advance.

yes, definitely escalate much sooner.

Just keep this in mind, always:

Do you want the girl you're on a date with to be a friend, or do you want her to be more?

Not kissing her=friend.
Kissing her = more.

Your choice....

Every girl likes someone who is willing to be different. Next time you're in that situation don't worry about where you are or who's around. Wait until she is saying something, interrupt her, and say "I was going to wait until later to do this, but we might as well get it out of the way now." And k-close. You might risk embarassing yourself, but if you do it the right way, she will love the fact that you are cocky enough to do it in front of whoever and that will make her not give a damn either. You did the hard part by getting her out, you need to let her know your intentions right away. For me, that works every time. I don't even look for IOI's on a date. If she's with you, she's interested. You just need to show her you have the balls to do something she isn't expecting.