So just newbie questions i need help with. here goes.


-When taking a girl out do i pay for her? It seems like that is courtesy, am i wrong?

- Im currently talking to a HB8 and she will constantly rag on herself, such as, im so fat or ugly. Stuff she knows isnt true at all. How do i respond?

- What exactly is a shit test? Like when talking to HB8 she will mention other guys, while i make fun of some, i try to keep it neutral most of the time. Only bagging on them when she seems to want me too. Is that a shit test? should i not bag on them at all?


- From reading some stuff it sounds like i should not show interest and be reserved, but then i see other posts that make it seem like i should be more outgoing. What do i do? Be kind of cold and make them work, or try and get there attention?

- And honestly do some of these things work? Like some openers i had read that people say work great seem like that would get you laughed at. Especially by stuck up chicks. Im in no way bashing these techniques, they are just new to me and i have questions bout them.

- What do you do if a girl responds negatively to a neg. Like if i were to say " I like your jacket, is the fur real?" she replies "no" I say " Oh well its still cool i guess" and she gives me kinda of a rotten look and stays away from me for the rest of the night. Whats that mean?


- If i text a girl trying to iniate convo one day and she doesnt respond, but then she texts me the next day just about small talk, should i respond? That happened to me the other day, i tried to text her tuesday to which she didnt respond, then she tried to text me Wednesday, to which i did not respond. Is that good? I dont want to seem like im just there for whenever she needs me but she can just ignore me.


Im 20, i just got out of a 3 year relationship and want to really improve my game. Feel free to pm me with any advice. I really want to master this stuff so i will take anything i can get advice wise. thx guys.

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Hey Libra!
lotsa questions, a few answers

1. they say don't pay the 1st date: ur losing ur money & it's like aying for her attention, as if ur worried she wont want u if u don't pay. Honestly, i would pay for 2. it's up to you, but don't be doing it for her, rather because you want to pay for her. You decide who pays.

2. She calls herself ugly & fat: She may be doing it as a "shit-test" or because she wants attention. most likely because she's testing you. she knows it's not true, so u can tell her "Yes, it's true!" or just ignore it, maybe say "ok" or "Don't blame me!".
she just wants to see if you'll tell her how beautiful & perfect she is in your eyes and that you wouldn't dare offending her.

3. A shit-test: i think a shit-test is when a girl says something to see ur response, see if she finds a flaw, a weakness in you personality. Ex:
-questions with only one good answer
-not complying to what you ask

4. I think that's where a lot of people mess up. the true saying goes: "don't show interest first"

5. Yea...the openers
I wouldn't use the ones that don't fit my personality. some people use some openers well and for others the same thing won't work.
you gotta understand how the opener works on a person.
Go with what u think works, don't even use any from the forum/books if they don't suit you. make up your own if, why not?
the thing is "it's not what you say, but how you say it"

6. It means don't neg! lol jk
I don't neg, but I jokingly mock girls all the time.
some girls can't take it. but instead try this: when she does something, act like its really not cool what she just did. it's fool proof & you know how it feels when you do something stupid in front of a girl and they give you that weird look. do the same thing, make her feel the same way (sounds mean said like that)
ex:she does a joke, u just look at her like O_o "ok..."

6. for texting, i don't have a cell so i dont know lol...anyways im sure u'll do fine thought, no one asks you to do everything perfect, or else no one would ever get laid

Thanks for the help i really appreciate it!!!!