I've read a few pick up books. I've always had a lot of friends and seen as popular, but never with the girls...My good looking friends, who are not very cool, have gotten rediculously good looking girls numbers with no effort, and I have a hard time even getting them to talk to me. I'm not ugly, but I'm not good looking and I have trouble attracting better than 5s... Even though I've been reading the game I can't help but think that looks really do matter...Lol maybe I need some inner game help but what do you guys think?

looks do not matter at all trust me, unless youre hideously deformed lol. girls jock the mouthpeice. the looks thing only gives you a lil leg up in the beginning but ends up not mattering. you notice when you start talking to a girl, getting to know her she either gets hotter or uglier. it works the same with them but to the extreme. also in younger years (like freshmen in high school) looks matter alot more to them because its more about social standing, and impressing their friends at that point. i was blessed with the looks when i was younger so i got lazy but had to end up developing my game as i got older to keep pulling them. one of my favorite things to do is get some AFC kickin it with my crew and show him the game, and if theres one thing ive found that a lil game is all it takes. trust me ive seen some shit, straight dimes fuckin wit a dude that was a virgin when i met him. if theres one thing ive learned through the game its that it dont really matter what you look like, and youll only get so far on looks alone. so dont trip lil homie just keep excersising that mouth peice and youll be pullin dimes in no time

You cannot change your physical features by much unless you go all extreme and do plastic surgery and crap but its not necessary. What you should understand about appearance is a well groomed man is a man who takes good care of himself and girls like that. Looking good will make them want to qualify themselves to you for the same reason you would try and qualify yourself to a hot chick. The importance of good grooming and masking your persona into your outfits will help to display your personal traits and its even a confidence booster for yourself. Its like cleaning up your room after a long time and it just feels very gratifying. It doesn't just give you a plus with women but its also a plus for your inner game. Its one of those things if you can improve on then do it it wont hurt you but don't rely on it to do all the work for you.

quick answer.
yes. looks do matter...
but only really on the initial approach... after that they start to pay more attention to your body language, your delivery, how you're dressed and how congruent you are.
you can be 300lb, 4'8" and bald and still get girls if you have tight game.

being good looking is a fair advantage for club game where you cant talk to the girl, so you have to rely purely on your physical attributes to get the dance, the grind, the k-close / #close.
however, a lot of clubs are pretty dark, so just being dressed well and well groomed will also give you a leg up on normal guys because she wont really be able to see your face in much detail.

yes, girls are shallow too. but you can work around that... you have the tools and the blueprints.

Looks help you for the first 30 seconds of the interaction. After that it's all on your game.

Looks also serve to shape what style of game works best for you, but it doesn't make anything harder or easier.

Having good looks growing up does relate to having good looks in a way, though. If you grew up being confident AT LEAST about how you look, you'll be accustomed to radiating a form of positive warmth with your attitude and body language. You'll FEEL more confident, more deserving of the best things in life. This sort of energy is very attractive.

But if you understand that concept you'll see that it doesn't directly involve your looks at all. Having this sort of "confidence" can be learned with or without good looks.

Your perception of reality starts from within.

Looks matter. Its true and you would be foolish to think otherwise.
However, they are both an advantage and disadvantage. Women will (if ur highly attractive) be more keen on you and instantly attracted to you but they will also expect more from you. If your hot, they will expect you to have game to match. Looks are an inital way for people to judge you and form an opinion.
The major disadvantages of looks are that you will likly find girls with low confidence think they arent worth you (because your hot) or think your a player and only want sex with her (because they will think because you are hot, you get loads of women).

If you are using the M3 model, being good looking as a rule makes A1 shorter, but C1-3 longer.

Madals

I think most things which are considered looks are all completely changeable, teeth can be straightened/whitened, acne and paleness can be sorted, beer bellies can be got rid of.
Grooming is more important than looks, would Brad Pitt be as good looking if he had messy unkept hair, bad skin and was overweight?
But as Chief said this only matters for the first 30 seconds, after that it really doesn't matter, think how many times you have seen an average/below average guy with a stunner and asked yourself how he got so lucky.

So yeah grooming and charm are the main things.

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i assumed looks matter. that must be why i never got any girlfriends i thought. i was wrong. have men who arent classically attractive ever gotten hot girlfriends? of course they have. and its not whether you are good looking. its whether you are ATTRACTIVE. there is a massive difference. if i were you, id give johnny soporno a message. hes a genius when it comes ot this. if your lucky hell link you to his interview with devid deangelo. its gold. basically man, you need to work on your inner game. all you need to do is be yourself. seriously. be yourself to girls. and listen to johnny soporno. absolute genius. send me a pic in a pm and ill be the judge of whether your not good looking

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you dont have to be a super model man, or a fuckin movie star. so long as you are well groomed and you show that you are comfortable with how you look, it will be portrayed in your demeanour, and it will make you all the more appealling.

That was beautiful Are you a fellow believer in the power of meditation?

To be honest. I love the concept, but I can't put it into practice. I am slightly envious of people who can meditate. I have read a book or two on the topic. I've tried but cannot yield any results. Do you have any tips?

On a side note, I do know one man who says he can meditate. He has given me a few tips. But, when I see him "meditating," he is snoring. LOL. I think he is just looking for an excuse to nap.

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No...No...No...You can be snoring and still meditating. The key is to be at peace with yourself. Few of the boys on here are. They are all looking for acceptance from others. Start looking for acceptance from within. Love yourself. Once you accept yourself you will enjoy looking within. At this point in time you are probably not fully at peace.

Take a break from girls. Find beauty in life itself. Always look for beauty and peace in every single thing you do. Turn off all negative influences. Divorce yourself from negative energy. Spend less time with others and more time with yourself.

I have only taken a few small steps on this self-improvement journey. Unfortunately, I am at a point in my life were it is quite difficult to step back to spend less time with others and turn off negative influences.

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