A strategy for Parrying the spot-bomb



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:41 pm 
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I'm a newbie to the school of pick-up, so I thought I'd christen myself with my own little tip.

While trying to absorb as much knowledge as I could from this website, I came across several replies and posts about girls calling you out on your opener: "Do you get a lot a girls with that?"

This can be a huge blow to your confidence, and I imagine most people just abandon ship. This happened to me at a club once, but I was able to use my alcohol-enhanced wit to recover. So here's my suggestion for parrying the spot-bomb; let me know what you think.

Technically, my approach was all wrong, but I was drunk and just messing around anyway so it was permissible. I see a HB9 standing alone against a rail at a dance club with bored but beautiful blue eyes. I know this is the wrong type of target, but I'm a sucker for the peepers. I lean against the rail next to her while mimicing her body language and negged her. I can't remember exactly what I said, but it was something along the lines of "I was looking for the person having the most fun tonight, and I saw you here going crazy yada yada yada..."

Then she shoots me down: "Is that your one-liner?" which translated more or less into "get the fuck out of my face loser."

The AFC within, however, was passed out from too many tequilas, so I was not fazed. Right away, I sharply retorted "Is that YOUR one-liner? Asking guys [mocking her voice] 'Is that your one-liner?' If it is, I'll tell you right now you're not gonna pick up any guys with that weak game." I said it in a sort of "La-di-freakin-da" sort of way, but with a smile on my face so she knew I was teasing.

Instantly those gorgeous eyes lit up with laughter, and I proceeded with the whole funny guy teasing the "I'm too sexy for you" girl routine, stacking up the IOI's like poker chips. My drunk-ass started slurring and running out of shit to say though; so I salvaged the sarge and got her number before I fucked it up.

I have some theories about why this worked so well, but I thought I'd get some more professional opinions from you guys.

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It's not a "spot-bomb." It's a shit-test. I'd suggest brushing up on your terminology. It's not that big a deal in the field, but communication with other PUAs requires learning the lingo.

What you did there is classic shit-test disarming. She threw you a "get the fuck out of here," and you threw it back at her, and teased her about it. It's nothing new, but it was well-performed and you thus receive kudos.

Kudos.

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Sorry- I am a newb. I just signed up so I wanted to post something. In my defense, however, I have read "The Game" as well as other literature, and I do know what a "shit-test" is and what it means to disarm it. It is my personal opinion, however, that the common "is that your line" or "do you get girls with that" remark is slightly different from a normal shit test. My understanding of a shit test is that it is a sort of mind-fuck they give you mid-sarge in order to see how you will respond and judge you on that response. In situations like the one I described, however, the girl seemed genuinely disinterested and was trying to rudely discourage me from talking to her any further. So I did in fact consider using the exact terms you cited, but I wanted to be more precise (and perhaps self-indulgently leave my own original mark on the PUA community)

Anyways, it's still a strategy which can be "canned" and deployed commonly, so I'm glad you approve of it. Thanks.

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I disagree. The fact that she was genuinely disinterested was a mind-fuck. She was trying to make you go away. If you went along with that, she would have won, and you would have lost, the shit-test. And it _is_ a shit-test. She had a hoop (you going away) that she wanted you to jump through (by going away). By grabbing the hoop and making her jump through it for you (by opening up to conversation), you passed the shit-test.

"Spot-bombs" do not exist. It's a bit of a strange shit-test, but it is a shit-test none-the-less.

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All spot-bombs and shit-tests aside, it was a good recovery. What she did is a typical move from most good looking girls in a club or bar venue, certainly when they are all alone. I've run into the same situations dozens of times, whereas most men feel hurt or discouraged by it, she's honestly just protecting herself. Usually, they have their girl-friends around to do it or say that for each other.

Did you notice how much easier it was to disarm just the one girl who's being a bitch, rather than have to disarm friends and other targets? (even when the targets are friendly)

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Yeah I see your point, Monkey (rather enjoyed the imagery too). That's a good point too Methuselah about the lone shit-test vs. the barrage. I've had that happen many times before and there's a much greater chance of looking like a clown when they're all watching and shitting on you.

Anyways, there isn't much point discussing this post further unless someone has a suggestion for modifying and improving the disarm.

I would like to make one observation though. The girl's shit-test response to an opener might be seen as a HER version of the canned opener - its antimatter. Just like we ask "Can I get a female opinion...," to dozens of girsl at a club, they respond "Is that your line?" to dozens of guys.

That being said, there is a lot of strategic value in canned shit-test disarms, which I have not come across a lot in my studies of the Venusian arts. It's especially invaluable to us newbies who haven't gotten the mannerisms down yet and are thus more likely to get shit-tested.

So I encourage others in this community to expand our knowledge of shit-test disarming in general. The less the shit, the more the hit.

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Tyler Durden made a pretty good strategy guide for disarming shit-tests that I jsut found. this shit is gold: http://www.fastseduction.com/cgi-bin/se ... 1726052964

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