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 Post subject: Too much IOIs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:53 pm 
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Hey guys i have a little problem...

I get lots of IOIs from girls and they all are sexual ones like licking lips, showing of tongue, byting lips, showing the neck and so on... but when i try to talk with some chick she looks at me with a weird look and give me the cold sholder. Even most of them do not reply to my line. How do i get rid of this shit.

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What am i suppose to say when i get IOIs like licking lips. It happens ALL THE TIME. 10 girls, 10 IOIS. I know most of you want exaclty that but trust me there is something more to it than being the shit. Any ideas?


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I think the obvious thing is what do you say to them and how do you say it?
I could walk into a room and women passing out in a hot flush, but if i went up and said "Think maybe your friend wants to f*ck me" she aint gonna take it well.....


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 Post subject: Re: Too much IOIs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:55 pm 
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Hey guys i have a little problem...

I get lots of IOIs from girls and they all are sexual ones like licking lips, showing of tongue, byting lips, showing the neck and so on... but when i try to talk with some chick she looks at me with a weird look and give me the cold sholder. Even most of them do not reply to my line. How do i get rid of this shit.

P.S..

What am i suppose to say when i get IOIs like licking lips. It happens ALL THE TIME. 10 girls, 10 IOIS. I know most of you want exaclty that but trust me there is something more to it than being the shit. Any ideas?
anyone has an idea?


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 Post subject: Re: Too much IOIs
PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:14 pm 
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Hey guys i have a little problem...

I get lots of IOIs from girls and they all are sexual ones like licking lips, showing of tongue, byting lips, showing the neck and so on... but when i try to talk with some chick she looks at me with a weird look and give me the cold sholder. Even most of them do not reply to my line. How do i get rid of this shit.

P.S..

What am i suppose to say when i get IOIs like licking lips. It happens ALL THE TIME. 10 girls, 10 IOIS. I know most of you want exaclty that but trust me there is something more to it than being the shit. Any ideas?
Are you sure they are IOI's? Let alone direct to you. Also where is this happening? Because it sounds like to me that you are most probably misinterpreting their body language.


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 Post subject: Re: Too much IOIs
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Hey guys i have a little problem...

I get lots of IOIs from girls and they all are sexual ones like licking lips, showing of tongue, byting lips, showing the neck and so on... but when i try to talk with some chick she looks at me with a weird look and give me the cold sholder. Even most of them do not reply to my line. How do i get rid of this shit.

P.S..

What am i suppose to say when i get IOIs like licking lips. It happens ALL THE TIME. 10 girls, 10 IOIS. I know most of you want exaclty that but trust me there is something more to it than being the shit. Any ideas?
Are you sure they are IOI's? Let alone direct to you. Also where is this happening? Because it sounds like to me that you are most probably misinterpreting their body language.
it is happening when i am on the street, at school, bars, clubs...anywhere. Why should i misinterpret their body language? this is the most stupid reply i could get!


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Actually, it's not a stupid reply. When I read your post, I was thinking exactly the same thing. As far as IOIs go, these things may not always mean the girl is into you: girls have also been known to lick their lips, expose their necks, twirl their hair, etc. for reasons other than showing their interest in a guy...

If you're certain that you've made eye contact, the girl has noticed you, and she's giving you IOIs, then it could be your approach - weak body language or just a bad/weak opener.


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Like i said before (think u missed it) what opener are you using? If they are definatly IOI's you are probably saying something bad or in a bad way...


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I'm guessing you mean these are approach invitations? I'll assume that and hopefully be right.

It's REALLY hard to answer this without seeing it happen or more information from you but here's a few possible things you can try.

1. Go direct (if you feel they are showing sexual interest right off then they might just want you to man up and become disappointed when you try something indirect)

2. Give them a chance to give you a chance (line from Jeffy at RSD). Basically maybe you're expecting to warm a response, try plowing and turning things around.

3. There could be something critically wrong with either your opener or approach so experiment with it. Make sure you preserve her comfort levels (such as using a FTC) and are using openers that are socially relevant

4. If all else fails point out the elusive obvious and call them on it. "Hey now you can't expect to (whatever her IOI was) and not have me come and say hi".

Hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: Too much IOIs
PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:39 am 
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it is happening when i am on the street, at school, bars, clubs...anywhere. Why should i misinterpret their body language? this is the most stupid reply i could get!
You may consider my reply stupid, but if the girl was giving you an IOI she would not be cold to you. This response led me to believe that you where misinterpreting their body language. And as rigoberto ask are you making direct eye contact with these girls when they are showing the IOI to YOU and not to the OTHER guy that is near/next to you? Also are you sure you are reading the girls body language correctly? Because if you see them licking their lips once and doing nothing else they are not showing any IOI at all. You need to see multiple IOI's to know for sure that the girl is actually showing interest in you.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:46 pm 
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hi again,

i got banned on another forum for the same question because that is what all the guys here want but....

here it is...

When i make eye contact i get very strong eye contact | showing of tongue | licking lips | playing with hair | biting lips | showing the inside of their lower lip | opening of their legs while sitting then closing them | sliding their forefinger through their lips and so on...all kind of whore-like things.

I am definitely hands some but...it is really shocking when all the girls do that.

so months after months i tried different experiments.

i hided parts of my face and walked behind famous handsome guys and the was watching the girls...the only IOIs they were giving them was like touching the lower part of their hairs or looking them in the eyes..NOTHING like a slutty behaviour.

So u guys can be 100% sure that these iois are directed to me.

Yesterday 10 in the morning i went to drink a coffee in a local bar in the neightbour where i am living these days and there were two of the girls who were working there and another one girl with something like a blond hair that was drinking caffee on the bar and i sat next to her.

Again the three of them was giving me IOIs as usual and the girl next to me even was sliding the upper part of her body to my direction ( and place ).

When i got more than 10 iois from her i decided to talk to her and the moment i opend my mouth to ask her for something she looked at me with some kind of weird eyes and moved her body in the opposite direction as if she was trying to run away. Then the other two girls who work there were watching me like WTF YOU THINK YOU ARE DOING????

This happens to me so often that i am already scared to even ask for something a girl no matter who she is and no matter what i want.

Any ideas?

Most probably this shit has never happend to you so u cant answer me but at least give me some idea about how to act when i ask something and i get no responce. And then ask again and again girls pretend they do not hear me...and show some kind of fucking weird look on their faces.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:36 pm 
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I find it odd that most of the IOI's you are getting are coming from the mouth. I wouldn't consider them slutty. But it sounds like the girls are playing games with you more than anything else. As far as to why they go cold on you when you approach them, how are you going about that? Because my guess is your opener is killing their game for them. I am not saying you should play into their frame. But use what they are doing to your advantage. Meaning neg them on their behavior or something down that road.

Also if you think I never gotten such IOI's from girls your sure mistaken. It is also best not to assume what experiences various members have here. As we do come from all sorts of backgrounds.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 1:03 am 
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This makes no sense at all, do you see all these girls often? If so maybe they are playing with you, atleast thats how it seems.

It seems like your opener is killing you if these girls are complete randoms, If they show extreme disinterest after showing multiple IOI's. It could also be something to do with your looks and/or smell... i duno just throwing ideas out there this seems quite random.


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This makes no sense at all, do you see all these girls often? If so maybe they are playing with you, atleast thats how it seems.

It seems like your opener is killing you if these girls are complete randoms, If they show extreme disinterest after showing multiple IOI's. It could also be something to do with your looks and/or smell... i duno just throwing ideas out there this seems quite random.


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Some of them are girls that i see every day. Others are complete strangers.


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my expirience:

all through highschool i was very independant, girls liked it.

but i had little or no social proof in most settings. i had one real good friend and we were like totally independant of everyone else.

anyway girls were all attracted to me and gave me iois all the time but since i didnt dress like abercrombie or anything decent at all when i actually opened with them in public or in front of their friends i got mixed reactions.

that could be your case.

is your presentation good? do u have friends, do u dress well, do u walk and talk with confidence, are you smooth when u talk or too direct or factual?

just some ideas


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