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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:04 pm 
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Funny enough this took place during an Inner Game Bootcamp I was teaching the night before halloween. Usually this can never happen since I have to focus on the client, however he had his own girl into him and encouraged me to take it as far as I could...so I did. Also want to note I was wearing my corporate devil costume which means dressed all in black with a red tie and devil horns, along with black nails and the usual rings and bracelets. Thankfully I wasn't the only guy in costume but since not everyone was the peacock factor was definately there.

The client who wants to now be called Hollywood came out to Mansion with me in south beach miami. Right away I'm kind of in my head, and really not caring how this night goes for me, since I'll be focused on Hollywood. I have him open some sets while waiting in line and one of the girls he talks to is HBYummy. It was a quick convo and I mildly took part in it but then he moved on to another girl he'd later number close and meet up with again another night. Looking back I suppose you could say I was doing active disinterest but it was entirely coincidental since I just generally wasn't in PU mode and didn't care.

We go in and right away I have him doing sets and I do some demo's. This part though is to much to talk about and this will be long enough without it. Eventually though he runs into the girl from the line again. Lets call her HBBlonde. I suppose he's in "state" at this point and really gets the girl all into him. Some random guy she was with, I assume an orbiter, tried AMOGing but the girl literally brushed him off. He was pissed but couldn't do anything...Hollywood didn't even have to AMOG bust since the girl handled it.

While I'm watching this take place and winging when I can and trying to hold off the AMOG I see HBYummy walk by.

Psych: (makes eye contact, smiles and gets her smiling back to force IOI, grabs her waist and pulls her in) Hey this is to funny...you think AMOG is HBBlonde's boyfriend? (points at Hollywood with HBBlonde and upset AMOG)
HBYummy: Not sure... (goes off and talks to AMOG) No he's not!
Psych: Poor guy, he's trying hard but I guess his approach is just off.
HBYummy: (laughs) I suppose so
Psych: What's the worst you've ever gotten?
HBYummy: Not sure...usually it's just "what's your name" or something like that.
Psych: Never had a guy go "heeeeyyy shorty let me holla at you!" (from here I just impersonated other bad pickup attempts and keeping her laughing while getting away with tons of kino)

I honestly don't remember where the conversation went from that but it honestly doesn't matter. I just put that in to show you what simple situational opener I used and how I transitioned out of it. What happened then was some very short fluff talk, slight playful banter, and talk about my costume and stuff in the club, along with Qualification. Really nothing that spectacular or advanced. The words were really kind of meaningless...here's where the real game came in though.

We're in a LOUD nightclub so one of the first rules is you want to talk as little as possible, or say what you need to say as simple and short as possible. The more I combat the loud music to talk the more my value and attraction drops. Why you ask? Because the simple fact that I'm battling the music to scream and talk normal length shows I care way to much in the girl and the interaction. This is most guys problem with club game...they're used to tons of routines and lines or at least a structure and want to get it out. Most community guys say "It's to loud to talk so I can't game". The answer is that talking to much hurts your game here and when you realize that you can cut so much stuff out and you realize you can get attraction much easier AND quicker.

How do we make up for less verbal game though? Much more nonverbal game. I'm kinoing much faster then I would normally. Arms around her waist while I pull her in to talk in her ear with my hand on her face to steady her. More sexual EC takes place. More kino pinging or playful nonverbal stuff like thumbwars, playfully pushing her, sticking my tounge out, turning away from her dramatically ect ect. There's a playful factor to it but also a large sexual intent for this type of game. Only warning is the words you say do need to be situationally relevant and normal, if you say weird or boring things that don't fit the vibe then you just come off as weird and the girl becomes uncomfortable. Basically keep it short and playful and when you don't know what to do go fluff talk until you can make it playful again.

I'm talking in her ear now and she comes and talks into mine and it's just a back and forth. The entire time kino builds till I'm basically holding her and I can see that she's really attracted to me by her EC, how she sways her body to get me to notice it, exposing the neck a lot, playing with hair, and how she readily touches me. These are the key IOIs to look for here.
Anyone who knows me knows that I strongly believe the camera is the single best tool in pick up (other then the condom) and I used it here. I have hollywood take a picture of us.

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Now that I know mutual attraction has been established I go for sexual escalation. Many advocate comfort building (or what I term now more accurately at this stage making an emotional connection) here but for a SNL you skip it or bring it in if you notice she needs some. Usually she gives a flurry of interview questions which is all you need for her to not trigger ASD. The way I go for sexual escalation is obviously on the dance floor.

Since Hollywood is still dancing with his girl and we're already on the dance floor I just pull her in and begin. Here's one of the most important things about sexually escalating on the dance floor...dance face to face. It does NOTHING for your game to have her grinding on you. Now we're dancing and I'm rubbing my crotch with her knee to get her turned on and also some teasing pull aways and BT spikes for good measure. While dancing she randomly bursts out...

HBYummy: You're not the devil
Psych: Well I'm not an angel
HBYummy: I know your something in between...
Psych: A human? (laughs at this point)
HBYummy: I don't know but you're not the devil
Psych: Ok luv, I'm not the devil
HBYummy: (begins running her hands up and down me out of nowhere) But you are so YUMMY! (gets all excited) Most guys are all super muscular with 6-packs but you're just so yummy I love it!

Can't even make that up...looks do matter, I've always said so, but in this case my yummy buddha belly prevailed. I just laughed and continued dancing figuring it's time for the kiss close when...

HBYummy: I can feel that you know (talking about my boner)

This is a pure shit test and needs to be handled correctly. Notice how at this stage I do not excuse myself in any way and see it only as an opportunity to advance.

Psych: Well you're the cause of it
HBYummy: (reaches down and grabs it) You're getting excited...(shit testing again)
Psych: I'm not the only one (reaches down and slides 2 fingers along her crotch) I can tell you want me by how wet you are
HBYummy: I'm wearing jeans you can't tell anything
Psych: That just makes it even more impressive

My rule is anything a girl does to me I can do to her. It's obviously ridiculously on now. I go for the kiss close and begin kissing her neck and making out and Hollywood, now done with his set, begins to take pictures of us going at it.

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Even caught her going for the crotch again...

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I decide to move her for compliance since moving your girl is always good to do....gets her used to you leading. I take her to the couch and we go at it some more doing basically all we can. She invites me to go outside and have a smoke with her. With every successful pick up you have to show a willingness to walk away though which I then did a few times. I tell her I have to let my friend know first, she tries to talk me out of leaving but I tell her to wait by the bar until I come back. I give Hollywood the choice of what he wants to do and he says he's down to see how I get the lay which was all I needed.

I go back and see two guys hitting on her. I come into her view of sight and lean against the wall just smirking at her unphased, dont bother to even go in. The guys are trying to get her number and when she sees me she tries to excuse herself but they keep plowing. I decide to "rescue" her and without a word walk in and take her hand leading her away, the guys faces were dumbstruck. I remember all to well though when I was those guys.

We flirt some more in the club since she found out she can smoke inside and I run into a guy and 2 girls I know and introduce her to the bunch. She then remembers she's also there with friends and needs to let them know where she is. Again with the willingness to lose the set I let her go without even getting her number...this is where the inner game and true uncaring comes in. If she wants me she'll have to come back or it's lost. She eventually does come back passing a huge compliance test. Only thing is though now her friend shows up and is apparantly a cockblock from hell. She's with a guy and is just looking extremely pissed and annoyed at HBYummy. HBYummy says she has to go but gives me her number without me even asking so I accept.

I watch her leave and figured it was over but 10 minutes later she comes back alone.

HBYummy: Come with me (grabs my hand)
Psych:ok....

She explains she left her shoes in the bathroom, so I'm walking there with her. We get to the girls bathroom and she lets go to walk in but I walk in with her.

HBYummy: You can't come in! This is the GIRLS bathroom!
Psych: I'm the devil, I can do what I want

We go in and all the girls in there start giggling apparantly loving a guy there and thinking it's amusing. Maybe we can be onto something and crack bathroom game who knows. I decide I'll go for the bathroom pull but all the stalls are taken. I lead her out and into the boys bathroom.

HBYummy: I can't go in there...
Psych: hahaha like I said I'm the devil, I do what I want...unless you can't handle the devil and do what you want?

She comes inside with me. I see the empty stall with her behind me walking and kissing my neck...every guy has his mouth open just watching...then out of nowhere some huge bouncer rushes in and demands we leave. I don't care I'm counting this as a technical bathroom pull lol. Lesson learned though, take her to the girl's.

We walk out and I struggle to make logistics work but with her cockblock friend it can't happen. She gives me one last sad look as her friend drags her into the taxi.

SCREW THAT!

I text her with "I'm coming over" which she replies "Alright". I text "adress" and she then sends me the name of her hotel and what street it's on (she's visiting from LA). Easy as that. I finish up with hollywood and grab some pizza, then head over using my GPS. When I show up I park by a meter near her hotel and walk in. I realize though I don't know her room number! It's about 4 am at this point but she's up when I text her letting her know I'm here and she gives me the room number. Apparantly the guy was her cock block friends boyfriend so they have a room together and HBYummy has her own which worked great. We had to keep the noise down though since the rooms were right next to each other. No LMR and basically went straight to it after playful sexual stuff and making out. Since it was a thursday night I was able to leave without spending the night by saying I had class tomorrow and had to get back to campus.


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Awesome...

I never get a boner when dancing with a chick


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 1:37 am 
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Hey Psych,

Congrats on just a really clean sarge.

A great point about shouting over the noise being a value lowerer. It does come off like a battle that you can not defeat.

Also, I completely agree with you on the dancing thing being easier, I closed an HB last night in Hollywood simply by going heavy on the kino right away and it seems that this working really well lately.

One interesting discrepency, I kissed her with her facing the same direction as I was, her ass dancing against me. Very unconventional, and am not really sure how I made it happen.

A question I have is, what do you find so particularly effective with the camera? It triggers closeness and touching, yeah, but what's the underlying theme? What's the unexpected benefit that maybe isn't so immediately obvious if there is one?

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