What are some of the possible reasons that a potential target doesn't pick phone

I can think of few
-There was very less or no attraction to begin with and phone number was given without thought
-It's a test of some sort
-Should have texted her before calling, calling first is too scary for target.

maybe they were busy man. seriously, if you think that you did a good enough job in seducing her, then its either that or she gave you the number for self validation on her part.

if its like that man, then just fuck her. you dont need her: go out and sarge till you drop, then choose one girl that u were really into, and call her.

btw, dont call women over n over when they dont pick up, thats a DLV, as im sure you know

yeah,

usually if the first time at two very obvious times they don't pick up, I hit delete the number.

But the main problem for me now is not having follow ups.

I have tried from waiting till 3-4 days to calling the next day apparently nothing is working for me (perhaps i am doing some thing wrong)

the attraction is irelavant (i dont know how to spell that lol). its the comfort that counts. even if you do get put into LJBF.

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its all about how comfortable they are with you...

if they are slightly weirded out by you at all you better have friends that are friends with her so that you can at least try and get a group thing going.

other then that she isn't going to want to talk to you lol

ok, so how much comfort level does one need for her to pick up the phone after she easily gave her (real) digits.

I would definetly work on getting the comfort level up, but how much comfort level you can achieve in say 5-15 mins of first meeting her (and getting her number, usually club setting or cold approach with no common friends or apparent interests)?

The whole point of getting the number and calling/talking is to make a bit more comfort level. Agreed if you "weirded" her out it won't help you. But unless she already knows you very well there is always going to be certain level of "weirdness" for you (the stranger) how ever charming you may be. For some its very less (perhaps by their appearance, demeanor). But generally this "weirdness" can be overcome by comfort which comes from familiarity (she can associate with you, she can guage/understand you personailty to some extent)

But still the question remains that if she was not comfortable talking to me EVER, why would she give her digits? (perhaps she cannot say NO, or changed her mind mid way)

Usuaully after getting the number i prefer to say, "so catch you later perhaps" or some thing to that regard.

hey man, as i said before, sometimes girls feel empowered when a guy hits on them, just as you probably get the same feeling when you have a successfull sarge. because of this, they give their numbers out to add to the ascension in their personal esteem. they feel good that way, and who doesnt want to feel good?

Why the hell are you waiting for so long to call the girl? If you don't call/text within 3 days the girl will loose any interest she had in you.
You don't need that much comfort for a girl to pick up the phone, you just need them to have enough interest in you to pick up the phone.
It hard to say really. I been able to get girls that didn't know me to open up fully within 15 minutes and others took longer to open up fully to me.
Comfort doesn't really have much to do with it as other been saying. It more has to do with interest.

interest comes when they have some comfort whether that is from demeanor or looks. you can also do it by just being calm cool and collective for comfort.

but she was obviously interested in you for her to give you her number.

5-15 mins is plenty of time to get her comfortable/more interested

just talk interests.. DHV... Neg her.... compliment something she is wearing (preferably rings or bracelet so you can kino(simple smooth touch to the hand(dont make it awkward)))

she will have fun and things will be cool.

and the catch ya later thing in texting and calling makes her think you hope to see them. yes you need to now you too are interested but also make it seem like they can wait. like with texting dont say bye or anything. if you are done just say "i g2g im (input fake/real plans)"

and dont text back right when you get a text of hers wait a couple mins.

there are some great threads on texting game. check em out...

i hope this will help somewhat

actually, what you WANT is to make her UNcomfortable. that is what attracts women. when you make them comfortable, that automatically gives them incentive or reason to put you on their LJBF list. DIScomfort is what you SHOULD be aiming for.

human beings in general, thus not just women, are attracted to the new and exotic. that is the whole point and premise behind the neg-hit. by making your target UNcomfortable, you show via your confidence in yourself in the act of causing the discomfort, your dominance or superiority over her. this further raises your value and goes paralell with the alpha male concept. it also disarms the target, allowing for more dominance on your part. moreover, this uneasiness can be used in rapport building on her part, or making her qualify herself to YOU.

therefore, in this sense, there is a distinct contrast between comfort and interest, at least in the context we are discussing. it all comes down to ambition.

this has turned out to be a really interesting discussion, and i hope we all take some good things from it.

dis forum is cool lol... hmm well like ppl said already u cud always try to text her the first time if u think u didnt build enough comfort zone and den da next day u cud call its up 2 u... but if dey dont pickup its just w/e

Uh? Discomfort will lead to disinterest. Why would you want to do that? You want the girl to be comfortable so that you can get to know her and she can get to know you. You only go to the friend zone if you didn't build up enough interest in the girl.

dude this is a loada shit.

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You may not have done anything 'wrong' at all. Maybe she was just a flake, women do that kinda sh*t. She may have been all about the Day 2 when you were planning it or what have you, then maybe she just said 'fuck it' or what ever it is that flakes think. Maybe she hooked up with that dude with the enormous wang shes been after for a year now and was getting bottomed out whenever you called. WHO CARES? Call, leave a short message that doesn't make you look desperate and conveys some form of comfort (i.e. a nickname you should have gave her or some form of call back humour) and tell her you will call back some other time (optional, but I prefer it). Whenever you call back, make this message even shorter, just don't look like a d-bag AFC or even worse and not say anything at all/not leave message. Then write her number down in a black book that you keep next to your blow up doll (optional). That way when she calls you a few later because she was in the hospital recovering from being bottomed out by Giganto-wang, you will know whose number that is.
In short: two phone calls, delete, move-on, and SMILE

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Hey dude, common prob.

All you can do if they don't pick up is move on. When two people vibe well they're usually on the same page, and its a mutual excitement when they get together. If some chick isn't picking up, youre just not on the same page. Big deal, ya know? Its not personal, cus she doesn't know you yet.

It actually works to your advantage if you're into quality Day 2s, and someone you can be real with. Unless your looking for ONS, which are typically closed in that first night, lol.

I go through my phone and "AX Bitches" every other month or so. Not sure why, but it's really fun and getting rid of that/those number/numbers is always a good thing. So AX that Bitch!

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