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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:37 pm 
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Hi there,

I really need this forum's expertise.

I have been after this girl for a while now. It's been difficult for me to game her lots because we were both embroiled in studies (she's doing her masters thesis. I'm at law school).

She has a bf but he is overseas and its no big deal (see below). I’m sure I have her but I can't seem to close her fully.

I think my sticking point is comfort.

The third last time we meet we kissed when we left. It was so easy. I didn't do anything. She initiated it. I had just been talking to her, giving her constant eye-contact and playing with her hair. We hugged and then she went for the kiss. I think this is because I was able to get some comfort with her as we discussed various things - girls I had previously dated etc...

So the last two times, when we leave each other, we kiss: but short and sweet. It is this that I can't seem to move on from. I’m stuck in limbo.

I can basically do anything to her, kino wise, and she doesn't care. Last time when we met I had my hands on her ass, her hair, even in her cleavage (in the middle of a busy street). She's cool with this but I can't seem to escalate from here.

A quick assessment of what the girl is like. A really sweet girl, great body, asian, really smart. The bf doesn't treat her well. She never mentions his name. I don't even know his name lol. But I think maybe part of it is that she doesn't have much self confidence. Once we went out and a hot acquiantance from my high school days was in the same restaurant as us. Hot acquiantance tried to steal my attention away from my girl. When we left the restaurant my girl didn't even say 'bye' to hot acquantance. She said to me outside the restaurant "she's really pretty." So I think she was intimated. I think she thinks that I’m a player (which I guess is true - I just suck at it). I don't think she will ever make a move. She lacks self-confidence because the bf has taken it from her.

Anyway she leaves in a few weeks (back overseas) so I have to pull it together.

My crappy plan:
1) We meet in the afternoon. We hug like usual but this time I say "where's my kiss" (because we only ever kiss when we leave one another). She'll go to kiss me and I will say "nah I don't want it now."
2) She'll probably laugh and if she starts complaining about it I will do that Mystery trick where I ask her to close her eyes and stick out her tongue; and then I suck her tongue. THere should be no problem doing this to her.
3) I will take her for a drink. She is much more open/care-free after a single glass of wine (and so am I). Then I will try comfort because this is where I fuck up.
4) I will take some pictures with my phone. I don't have any pictures with her so she will like this. I can run that other Mystery trick of taking 3 types of pictures (I think you take a quirky one, a very serious one, and then just a normal nice photo and then say to her "We make a nice couple").

But now what? Im fucked by this point. Shit tests don't worry me in the slightest. But where do I go from here? I have as much freakin' kino as I want. Do I just have to be forward with her and ask her if she "want's to be with me"?

At the end I’m going to say to her "I want to spend the night with you." If she hesitates I will say "I’m not that easy" (which is true. It isnt all about laying this girl). If that works we will get a hotel room (I live a fair distance from her and she lives in a tiny apartment with her sister).

But how do I get from the photo thing to the "I want to spend the night" bit? It is the comfort that I suck at.

Should I ask her about her bf? I haven’t done this. With other girls in the same situation I usually do (because I figure AFC's don't ask about a girl's bf. So I do the opposite). Maybe that will get her to open up. But I don't want it to bog-down the convo.

Should I run "the cube" on her? Or tell her Haruki Murakami's 'On seeing the 100% perfect girl one beautiful April morning' (http://www.mat.upm.es/~jcm/murakami-perfect.html) which explains the complexities of fate that brought us together?

Help! What sort of things do you do to establish comfort? I realise comfort is probably something they you just ad-lib, but I need some pointers.

THanks in advance!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:56 pm 
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Hey buddy =)

"I want to spend the night with you." - I think that is too forward and direct-game for this girl. Sounds kinda creepy.

First off, when you go for the kiss-close at the end of the night, as you both lean in, delay it, then at the LAST MOMENT, turn your head so she misses you, and kiss her neck/suck her ear/bite neck. THEN return for the kiss. The kiss will be much better. Also, don't just have one kiss. Start with not tongue on the lips. Then pull back and wait for her to re-initiate. Work your way deeper. As you do use your hands to grope her.

The idea is to get her wet. Us boys live with our dicks in our brains, but girls live with their brains in their pussies. If she's wet, she'll do anything. And it's not hard to get her wet. Just get her aroused.

To get a hotel room, I suggest you do it from the point of comfort rather than seduction. It'll have to be with a carefree attitude so you don't scare her away.

The way I would play this one is to hit her with it EARLY in the night. Maybe when you meet up before you go have fun, or just after a glass of wine, just throw it in. Then you can see her response. If it's positive then confirm it. If it's not, leave it, and ask her again later in the night when you've built more attraction and comfort.

After the photo routine, say something like "OMG, i've got this awesome photo I have to show you (build it into a routine)."

Her: "What is it?"

You: "Well, it's a secret and it's very special to me, so I don't know if I can show you."

Her: "Awww come on you can show me"

You: "Ok, well later tonight you can come back to my hotel for TWO MINUTES ONLY and check it out, you'll love it. (If she looks unsure, then add the following): But I'll have to kick ya out after that!

Her: "(some sort of positive response)"

You: Ka-CHINGGGGGGG RESULT!



Hope this helps buddy.


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