Hey there,

what is the best way to deal with the rejection of a kiss. I know that I don't wanna make a big deal out of it, so maybe just ignoring what happened and talking about smth or giving her IOD instead might be an option. Is this also the case when she says smth like "you're going to fast", "what you're doing?" or the "LJBF" bs? I guess it would be good to come up with a neg, but I can't think of any possible answers.

How did you go about it going in for the K-close?

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It's not a problem I had so far, I just want to be prepared just in case it might happen.

ask if she wants to kiss you. if she says yes, do it. if shes not sure, say lets find out, do it. if she says no, say i didnt say you could, just looked like you had sumfin on you mind

I might not go with this just because it show hesistation and indecisiveness. She will want an alpha male, a leader. Asking her if its ok or if she wants you to gives off an insecure vibe.

what hesitation? what indecisiveness? you are asking if SHE WANTS TO KISS YOU, not if you can give her a kiss or if its okay to. theres no hesitation whatsoever.

contrary to your claim, this SHOWS decisiveness and a very secure demeanor in that you lead whatever her answer may be. you come out on top either way.

I agree with thelibra. Just because mystery does it doesn't mean its the correct way to do it. Hes not a god lol... jeez. In my experience every time I ask a girl to do something the answer is much more likely to be no.

Can I go on a date with you? No

Can I fuck you? No

Do you want to go on a date with me? Not really

Do you want to have a child with me? umm no

can I pretty please touch you because you are so cute and I hold you on a pedastal pretty please can I? No

Asking is in general a needy behavior. The strong don't ask if they can do something, they just do it. That doesn't mean be irrational about this. You have to be able to read a girl to know if shes into you enough for the kiss. I have kissed countless girls and never gotten rejected, and not once did I ask if I could kiss them I just read that they wanted it and went for it. If you really must know whether or not to kiss a girl judge her off of her body language not her words. I think asking could be useful if you really suck at reading people, but I think it is extremely important to be able to read people off of what their body is saying more than what their words are.

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of course they said no to these. who in there right minds would? lol
this is something i really don't understand. asking is NOT needy. begging is. the questions you've stated above are, if anything, you begging for things, hence the results.

you might argue that mystery's kiss routine is the same, but it is not. throughout the whole process, one maintains an higher frame. i am above everyone, therefore i EXPECT the kiss. no begging whatsoever. the fact taht it has all possible outcomes worked into it makes it even more useful. besides, one would use this between c2-3, where the comfort has been built enough for it to work, so ...

why do you think asking questions is low value? eliminating them from you're dialect for the reasons you've stated just seem stupid to me man. no disrespect, and much love to you my brotha

truly confident thinking would be more like: "i can ask whatever the fuck i want, whenever the fuck i want to do it."

as opposed to:

"i won't ask questions because some guru said that it shows neediness and it lowers value."

it's not about the questions one asks, it's about how one asks them.
this statement shows that you know what you're doing, so all's good homey. i posted mystery's routine because the guy needed help and that is pretty much standard shit, right? but i just don't agree with your argument on questions.

btw:

Cry LOL

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X-posted from when I answered this on another forum...

I got a makeout with a girl I extracted from my local karaoke bar a few weeks ago. You know how many times I had to go for that kiss before I got it? SIX.

Go for kiss, get cheek. Pump BT.

Go for kiss, get cheek. Pump BT.

Go for kiss, get cheek. Pump BT.

Go for kiss, get cheek. Pump BT.

Go for kiss, get cheek. Pump BT.

Go for kiss, get cheek. Pump BT.

Go for kiss, MAKEOUT.

Getting "rejected" for a kiss isn't a "rejection," and it isn't even permanent. "No" means "not yet." The girl's just not feeling it yet. She wants you to game her up some more, caveman her some more, isolate her, SOMETHING (in my instance, she didn't want to make out in the venue; once outside and out of eyesight of large crowds, it was game on). Her not going along with it just means that it isn't time yet. It doesn't mean she doesn't want to or won't ever. Look, I've got ego problems as bad as anyone (my AA is still a rancid bitch when I'm not in state), and even I get this. Not getting the kiss on the first try doesn't mean "not you," nor does it mean "not ever, now that you've tried to kiss me and I didn't wanna." It means "NOT YET."

You won't lose anything by going for the close. According to Jeffy, it's extremely unlikely (if not impossible) that you'll even lose the set (if you're properly isolated, I suppose, so you don't get CB'd). You WILL, however, lose a girl by not escalating fast enough. So follow your core and CLOSE. Play the odds and CLOSE.

DOMINANT STRATEGY FUCK YEAH

Girls want guys who plow. They want guys who go for what they want. Denying you the kiss, even when she wants it, is a congruence test. She wants to see if you'll wuss out or man up.

In the immortal words of Alonzo Harris, MAN THE FUCK UP.

I think I agree with you on how mysteries kiss close could work now. Today I was sitting with a girl in her car. The tension was great and I could tell from her body language that she wanted to kiss me, however any time I would get too close she would tilt her head away. After a few times of this I figured that I was missing out on something, so I ask her:

Do you want to kiss me?

She responds: do you even like me?

Without having asked this question I may not have realized that I was did not have a good enough connection with her to kiss her yet. She's the type that only kisses a guy that is her boyfriend and in her mind it was not a step she was willing to take. Could I have gotten her to kiss me without the line? Sure, but I may not have realized that it would have made her feel uncomfortable and slutty which is not something I want.

Mostly what I wanted to point out is that you shouldn't be dependent upon a routine just to get a kiss. Reading a girls body language works 95% of the time and it is a much more powerful skill to learn.

Sometimes my ideas on romance don't quite come out on paper as they are in my head. Thanks for keepin me in line granny haha.

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