I'm hanging out with this girl in a couple of days that I want to game pretty bad. Ive already known her for a while, but im not stuck in the friend zone or anything like that. I want to at least k-close, but it's kind of hard for me. I think she likes someone else, but thats not supposed to stop me right? How would I go past that and still try to game her anyway. Ive gone over a couple of things, but this girl is a little wierd, like when she feels strongly, then thats what she feels. I froze her out for a while, then she started trying to talk me, success. THen she asks when we're hanging out, i played it off pretty well trying to make her convince me to hang out, showing her she has to gain my interest and work to hang out with me. Everything went great and now we're gonna hang out. I just need advice on how to k-close a girl youve already known, and how to get her past the person she "likes". Thanks

-Thunder

I had trouble with this not too long ago, i find laying back is a move i do more after a k-close. Wheather she likes someone or not isnt an issue you, be more Alpha in this situation, make her like you too. play the 5 lies game, then make her take you somewhere and from there it should be fine just add a little kino and make your move.

Not sure what the 5 lies game is?

The 5 lies game is where you challenge the girl to tell 5 lies in a row, but it's all in how you deliver it. Open up by asking her if she wants to try a game. Tell her that all she needs to do is lie 5 times in a row. Bet her a drink, another date, a kiss, whatever you think you need or you think will work. Then you start asking her the questions. They don't really have to be about anything specific. It might sound something like this:

(1st question)
PUA: What is your name?
Girl: (Lie)

(2nd question)
PUA: What building are we in?
Girl: (Lie)

(3rd question)
PUA: What party are we going to?
Girl: (Lie)

(4th question)
PUA: Uh, what question are we on again?
Girl: (She might be smart here, or she might not. If she gets it just go onto question 5, if not cash in your bet)

(5th question)
PUA: Ahh, you got me. Have you ever played this before?
Girl: Nope!

Cash in your bet.

The important thing is to preamble quite a bit so you distract her with conversation, so by the time you get to the 4th question you sound genuinely confused about which question you are on. Then if she doesn't get fooled by question 4 act defeated and ask question 5 with a good delivery (genuine curiosity, defeat, etc.).


There is a video out on YouTube of Style executing it perfectly, but unfortunately since I just joined I can't link it here. Just search "The Five Questions Game" and it should be the first result.

Thanks, but I dont think she'll go for a kiss or anything like that, thats what she is wierd about, like kisses are kind of a big thing, so like a hug is dumb because oh look you won a hug from someone you dont like yay yay. What are other things I could use? and Btw, we're prob gonna be in front of my house or somethin like that, at the mall possibly.

dude in my opinion if you have known her for a while it wouldnt be to wise to k close anyway, cuz it might make things awkward for the next time you see each other. then she might feel guilty and confused since she likes another guy... then want space and your fucked!

i think it depends on if you know the guy she likes. the games are great and everything but i think its priority one you demolish this guy as potential competition. if he is your friend and he likes her to then get the fuck out and dont game her. dont be an ass to a friend. on the other hand, if you dont know or dont like this guy then smash him. either find or make up some dirt on how much of a shity guy he is. dont talk about it in a serious way, but just sneak in little things like "yea! you hear what that asshole did with to his last girl?!"

its playin dirty, but you just gotta decide how bad you want this girl. play it slow and use your instincts... good luck

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I havent known her for a long time, mabe 2 months i dont even know, but yeah I have no idea who the guy is,and if i did, id probably not be friends with him. I actually have no idea who he is so I cant dig up any dirt at all and play dirty. And I don't think its gonna be awkward the next time because im good with dealing with awkward situations. I have a few BF destroyers if that applies:

-Create vision of the target and you doing fun things together

-Kind of joke about how good the guy is which will make her say "oh no he does blah blah wrong or w/e"

-And a couple of things I can't remember

In my personal opinion if you have to resort to "BF Destroyers" then you shouldn't be working game on her in the first place. I'm not a big fan of dirty underhanded tactics.

With that said, why not play the 5 Questions game just for fun? There doesn't need to be a bet on it, that's just a perk. When you have fun with someone you are naturally attracted to them, so maybe play the game just for the hell of it and show her you know a few tricks to have a good time. She'll remember that and associate you with fun.

Also I know you said you aren't in the LJBF zone, but to me it sounds like you might be close to that. If you are, you should probably try and make some sort of move the next time you hang out or you might get stuck in that position. As far as direct advice on the best move to make? I'm still a newb, so I can't help you there.


Good luck though!

Thx, and I also do not like dirty tactics that much, but I dont have to resort to them. I want and I probably am going to make a move, I just can't find the confidence or w.e to actually make it, i feel like its gonna be wierd and shes just gonna pull away, but i need to work on inner game, which is what im doing. THis girl is sort of a self test to see how I can improve and what i am afraid to do and what not afraid to do. Any other ideas on how to move in to the k-close comfortably?

Just do it or you'll regret the fact you didnt do it later

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So much easier said than done
i'm in a very similar situation, usually i'd have made a move by now, but something about her being a bit older than me almost intimidates me

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lol and yeah definatley easier said than done, this girl is actually younger than me but thats not a factor, any more advice on how to go about this whole thing. And ive hung out wit her before and the times i didnt make a move, i truthfully regretted it.

Just say to yourself in your head what the heck i am going to do it i am going to do it i am going to do it

I once meet this awesome chick, looking back I could have gotten her number but I was too scared, afterwards you keep thinking 'What if I did ask her, all the great stuff we could have done, life would be way different if I had asked her'

And for the next few days your going to be kicking yourself up the ass since you didnt do it

damn i hate it when that happens... the feeling of worthlessness is intense. happened to me last weekend and i still feel stupid just thinkin about it. i slowly began to learn that sometimes jumping into the unknown is not always a bad thing.... haha

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Yeah tru, thats the worst feeling when you didnt do somethin you wanted to really bad. Im just gonna try to tell myself to do it, and if she pulls back, what wuld i say to her?