So after you have a fair amount of rapport built up and you have kino escalated to the point that you have your arm around her,
-draw your hand down her arm to her hand and start your favorite #-close
-hesitate, looking at her hand.
-Ask for her other hand
-take both of them up to your face and complement her:"you have the most beautiful hands"
-put her hands on your cheeks
-do some cf like "Oh, my god she is attacking me. Oh no. I would not want to give people that impression"
-move her hands to the back of your neck your hands to her face or back and say "There I think that ought to give the right impression"
-kiss
-finish #-close

Now I think it is smooth because it allows the kino escalation to take place naturally and you bridge to the actual kiss through a unique complement. I am going test on an HB8 in the next couple of days (one way or another) and I know that it will work. Natural as hell. I have never kissed a girl and the thought of this is stressing me out but I know that I will not fuck this up like the last one opportunity. This one I am carrying through. I control my own destiny. Later.

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My goal: To become a Pickup Artist in everything but name.

And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.

Right on. You do control your own destiny. So.... did it work!? Its been a few days...

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No Swoop HB8 has a bf. But I came up with a quasi bf destroyer. I say quasi because the point is to not try and make you her bf but rather to implant the idea into her mind about how it would be okay for her to see you on the side without screwing up her current relationship

On the bf destroyer sticky some of the lines are to the effect of:

PUA: So what is it like to be in the perfect relationship.

That is fine, but it sets you up to take her bfs place. I would start off by complimenting the fact that she is in a relationship with somebody she really enjoys and that her bf sounds like a great guy whatnot. I might mention how she probably never even thinks of hanging out w/ other guys. Now hopefully, she would back off from this and say how her relationship is more open and her bf is not the jealous, needy type. You in turn compliment that and talk about how her bf is cool with her hanging out with other people and that he doesn't put too many constraints on her and that. If possible, you could go on about how seeing other people could help her current relationship because she could see what else was out there and then decide whether or not to stay with her current guy. (It could hurt it to, but this probably ought not be mentioned)

This next part is a bit tough because you as the PUA, or aspiring PUA, have to give up some power.

You give her your number.

If you ask for hers, she will likely say no and get defensive. The decision is hers to make and you know this. You express your intentions to want to get to know her and hang out. I never give my #, but this is one of the instances where I would have no problem doing so.

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My goal: To become a Pickup Artist in everything but name.

And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.

hmmm, so the hb8 had a boyfriend? Why didn't you try it out on one that didn't? What was all that "I control my own destiny" talk?

Post again once you got that kiss under your belt! Just remember, if its not you shes gonna kiss, its gonna be someone else... Maybe me, lol jk

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but i recommend trying things first THEN posting them.

i say this because if you post something, half the room will say "GREAT!" half the room will say "IT SUCKS!" and the third half will say "did it work?"

if you haven't done it yet, it's what they call arm-chair seduction, where you just speculate what will work and then people come in and pat you on the back.

i don't want to make you feel like a retard - I am just saying it because it is a trap to avoid testing things in the field by talking about it in the forum before trying it.

Plus, it misleads readers who might not know that it has not been tested.

regardless, I could see it working... but TRY IT! then report back.

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Well Swoop here is an abbreviated version. Yesterday my school the University of Montana, (Go Griz) played host to their bitter instate rival Montana State University (Go Bobcats sort of, I was born and raised a cat fan so I have allegiances to both places). Griz won 35-3 and Weber State lost to Eastern Washington, giving the Grizzlies a share of Big Sky Conference Championship. The game was fun as shit, just carrousing around with a bunch of my drunk-ass friends. A good time was had by all.

Anyway, so after a while I make it home thinking I was gonna go hang out with some of my friends from the school I went to in Billings for my first two years. I called them once, they never answered, those assholes. So I texted HBdarkness(I would post the exchange but I haven't the time). HBdarkness I text back and forth. Eventually she invites me over to this dudes house who I know, I get in the house and the first thing I do is kiss her (first time, I was strong, alpha and just didn't give a shit). I putz around for a few minutes before HBdarkness takes me to the couch and shortly thereafter begin a lengthy makeout/grope session (30-40 minutes) she makes comments about going to my car to presumably fuck. I tell her my bed is much more comfortable. She says something about not being able to leave. Whatever. Back to making out/groping,neck biting, sucking earlobes. So on and so forth. I tell her about four pages of an eight page essay I have to write so I eventually make it out of there around midnight and was in bed by two. All in all a pretty good day and night.

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Call me Sly.
My goal: To become a Pickup Artist in everything but name.

And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.