I went to this art-viewing / wine type event that's popular around town last night; good mix of people, fair amount of 7's-9's showing up with their groups of girls. Effort to "not just be meeting bar sluts", I mean, if we met at a museum, and all went out for drinks later, that's a different story, right?

I had a solid wing and we ended up joining them at their table, one hispanic 9, one tall thin blonde 8.8, who I was more into, and a carribean/mix 8-ish. They turned out to be planning on going to the same club downtown that we were after; so we ended up there, and they showed up later.

In the bathroom, I ran into this drunk ass guy who had to be homeless, someone must've loaned him a suit or something, he was drunk as shit at 8:45 at night, and saying, "Man, fuck these bitches man, these girls need to recon-ize, they need to recon-ize and come up to me. I'm trying to tell you something son."

So I used that as a story/routine and the girls laughed their asses off. I got to tell it 3 times b/c they were separate whenever I told it. So that's a field tested and approved story:

"I met this shady homeless guy in the bathroom. I don't even know how he got in here; someone must've loaned him a suit. He was like, man fuck these bitches!!!. etc. etc. Here I am drying my hands and he's trying to give me fatherly advice like, 'I'm tryin' to tell you somethin' son."

And tell the story with emotion and expression as you make fun of how mad the guy was. One of the girls who heard it at a distance was like, "Wait, what happened?" and then ended up laughing.

I don't know about the alcohol, but it really seems to open me up; I know some people say don't rely on it, but I was coming up with all the right funny stuff to say when I was more tipsey. I made fun of this one guy to the girls as he walked off saying bye to them, untucked abercrombie button down shirt, blue jeans, I was like, "Heeeeeey, I'll see you ladies later...I'm a douche bag" and they laughed their asses off at that.

The caribbean girl was showing way more interest in me but I was more interested in her blonde friend. The blonde wasn't talking much, but then all of sudden she'd lean in to me every now and then and tell me this whole schpeel about what she likes to do, etc. She later asked me how I met my friend. I said, "just through mutual friends...we were hanging out one night, etc.", after he left.

Other dudes were coming up from time to time too, and getting dismissed by the girls while we were there. One of the girls was like, "Are you friends with this guy standing here or something?" and I said, "What guy?" and turned around and there was a major chode just standing there looking at us, like trying to enter the set but had nothing to say. I said, "Hey, how's it going man?" he introduced himself, we shook hands, and he walked off after a minute.

I told the girl, "I guess some guys get so drunk as shit they want to just go up and talk to anyone; either that or he was a fag." I think when I explained the situation like that, it felt like I was conveying a sense of social authority, like I know this shit.

I think I mentioned the term, "must be part of the butt-pirates crew" to describe one guy to the girls, again, got laughs. I think it was one of the guys dancing.

My wing left 3/4 of the way in b/c he had a karaeoke thing he had to go to and said, "Stay here man, you got a good thing going." Stupidly, I said to one of the girls, "You've gotta put up with me for another 45 minutes or so."

The thing is, I tried to counter the blonde's standoffishness with a well placed neg, but they just don't do it for some girls, it just depends on the girl; we talked about parts of the city we live in, and she told me what part and I was like, "Oh, you live on the other side of the river? Well I can't even talk to you now." and she was like, "psshhhh, whatever." I said, "yeah, it'd never work, we'd never get along." Then I had to recover later by mentioning how cool it is that she lives really close to this brewery/bar nearby . I don't know, I guess the bitchiness made it more of a goal/challenge.

Towards the end I told the blonde I was glad I met her and her friends that night, and I've had a great time hanging with them. She was like "Yeah, I'm having fun too." I asked if she wanted to get together sometime. She said, "I don't know, possibly....." so I handed her my iphone, in keypad mode, and said, "You know what to do." So she gave me her number. I don't believe I even gave her my number.

The blonde ended up leaving like 45 minutes later, I must've been in the bathroom or with another set but she didn't say bye to me; not sure if she even said bye to her friends.

I got the caribbean girl's number too, just because the vibe was too damn unmistakable, I'd be stupid to not go for that, but I was less interested in her.

So it got later, we had been there like 3 hours, and the carib. girl was trying to convince me to stay out later and I said I really couldn't, been staying out late and going into work late alot this week, and she was like, "oh."

So it came down to it, I decided to jet, got hugs from both of them, told the carib girl I'd see her/we'd be in touch.

Then I called the blonde girl late this afternoon, didn't want the lead to go stale, also thinking I'd have to leave some nonchalant msg. but she picked up. I tried to make a little smalltalk for a while; told her I owed her a drink fo rthe shot she gave up to me (last night a waitress brough t out a tray of shots ad the girls all got one handed to them, I didn't get one. So one of the girls said, "oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know yo uwere with them., and I said 'that's cool; you can just get me back later." and the blonde gave me hers. I said, "You're really sure?" She just didn't want ot get sloshed on a weeknight.)

Anyway, wasn't comfortable smalltalk, I mean, do you want the conversation that leads to nowhere, and just take up her time without getting anything done or what?

So I just plain-out asked her if she wanted to do something sometime. "Because I'd love to grab dinner or something." and she was like, "I just got out of a really long relationship, and I'm not really trying to do anything like that right now." I was like, "alright, that's cool.....that makes sense, well, what about something casual like just grabbing drinks or something?" and she says, "Yeah, I'd be cool with that, with stuff in groups or something, but I don't want to do anything that resembles dating." I said, "No prob, alright, well, I guess I'll seeya around." They turned out to be part of this internet-based group of girls from meetup.com who all get together every now and then and go out, etc.

So I mean, what was I supposed to do with the blonde? She wasn't looking to date guys/get intimate w/ guys. Couldn't get her out on a date, I mean, was I supposed to get her to come out somehow, and then somehow finesse her into fucking me or something? I just cut that one loose, but not sure if I could've handled it better.

So I texted the carib girl simply saying, it's me, my name, and "how're you" and took a nap. When I got up I saw that she had texted me back like 3 hours later, "Good, u?" I said, "Not bad, had a great time w/ u girls last night."

Didn't hear back; I might call this weekend, I wanna move for an f close on this one at least.

Enjoy the routine. Any feedback would be appreciated.

no responses? I figured someone would have some kinda feedback; it's not like I go two girls into my bed that night, so I coul def. use the guidance, still.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Sounded like a fun night. I have that problem too. Picking the wrong target. I mean everybody wants the HB10 but if the 8's biting...

Also it sounded like you might have been being to social and not really focusing on targeting you know. I also make that mistake. I mean you can spend the whole night jumping from set to set routines flying having a great time and still go home alone because you didn't establish anything with someone.

Also I didn't see anything here really about Kino correct me if I'm wrong. My thing is that I think there's 3 main principles to sarging/bedding a female. Rapport, Comfort, Sexual Tension. Rapport she wants to hang out with you enjoys your company, Comfort she's comfortable enough with you to be alone with you perhaps follow you somewhere, and sexual tension she wouldn't mind you touching her intimately.

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Two # closes of >7s... good night.

That said, few tips.

There's a difference between being an AMOG and being antagonistic. An insecure guy makes fun of other guys. The AMOG is subtly, yet unmistakably superior. Ever seen Casino Royale? Think James Bond. Could you picture James Bond making fun of a guy for the way he's dressed? Much better is a subtle jab half disguised as a compliment. You know the rule.


Also, I can't see the point in the homeless guy. What are the morals/DHVs/DLVs of the story?

You met a wasted guy in a suit. He was inferior to you. If you're an AMOG, that goes without saying.

He condescended you, you're only comeback is to mock him to a girl?

Add a DHV to the story, it has a point. Otherwise, I see no point.

Finally... always bite the IOIs, even without closing on them. If you stay in a socializing, rather than a 1-on-1 closing mode, you can escalate the carib girl's IOIs, to DHV and introduce sexual tension and an AMOG (attractible, alphamale) status to yourself with the other girls. If you're sitting with your arms around one girl who you barely know, your target will be a lot more comfortable messing around with you.

Cheers

Com.solo,

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate the James Bond analogy, as I've always had that image in the back of my mind as the ultimate "lady's man", some might call James Bond "alpha male", but he's not the kind of guy to jump up on a keg and yell "whoooo hoooo!!!!". He may be cool and collect, but he's not drawing crowds. I've thought some about how to work the best parts of the James Bond persona into my social interactions, most of it is counter-intuitive to what we've been taught (that "we need to be loud, super-friendly, and super-talkative to be remembered by people.")

The making fun of other guys, I agree with you somewhat; that's really not me. I'm not a major $hit talker; but if I happen to mention something off-hand, and the girls start laughing and they're all into it....what am I supposed to do? Unfortunately, in the field, most people don't think it all the way through psychologically in terms of "that guy's making fun of other guys = he has problems with himself = he's not confident = he has to make fun of other guys to feel better about himself."

In high school, the cocky dickhead guy who was obnoxious and made fun of the most people had all the hottest girls hanging on him all the time. The field is in a lot of ways like high school.

Regarding your feedback on not seeing the point with the homeless guy routine; I don't think you're seeing the point.

It got the girls laughing, they were gathering around and getting closer in to see how the story was gonna go. Not all routines/stories have to fit your standard DHV/DLV textbook structure. The best advice I got from a buddy of mine was, "Girls are attracted to a fun time. If you show you're having fun and finding things funny, the girls will come." and that's what definitely happened.

Don't take this the wrong way; I'm not trying to slight the feedback you gave me or anything; I def. appreciate you writing; it's just that I think the homeless routine worked without fitting into a mold.

I mean, there were a number of things I could've done that I didn't, you're right; I could've isolated the carib. girl and upped my social acceptance w/ the target.

Thanks again.

The homeless guy story isn't a PUA routine because from a PUA perspective it has no point. Simply entertaining girls is not the same as attracting them. Of course, making someone laugh builds a bit of comfort (just like regular "fluff talk" does).. but you can't really call it a comfort building routine just because it's funny. Of course, being able to make up funny shit on the spot is always a good talent to have as a PUA. I usually think "if I have nothing better to say, I'll try random funny stuff", which works great

You could probably MAKE a real routine out of the homeless guy story by adding some to it... like saying "the whole thing reminds me about one time I had to carry my brother home after someone convinced him that drinking half a bottle of tequila in one go was a good idea.. he kept saying stuff about how you should be careful around the green ladies, because they bite" or something But yeah, make it a DHV or preselection ("I introduced him to my date and thanked him for his helpful advice" *big smile) story, and you have your routine