Well, most times if you think your having a problem with alcohol you probably do. Sorry to hear it bud.

Maybe the best option for you if you have just recently given up drinking is to try game places where alcohol is a non-issue ie. day gaming. I'm not saying give up the bars/clubs completely just give it time to get over the social anxiety of approaching women then you'll feel more relaxed in a bar/club and be less likely to drink to loosen up.

Hope it Helps
-ACe-

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I had this exact issue. I now find myself crutching on online game because I'm socially shy to begin with; then, when you take the drunk out of me...forget about it.

I'm kind of under the impression sober game is > drunk game. So being sober puts you at an advantage plus its a better life style overall. But it is hard if your use to the drinks effects on your inhibitions. I think the key is to destroy your doubts about yourself and conquer your fear (social anxiety) which is hard I know. I have trouble with this myself. I think we just have to cowboy the fuck up and get out there. Also, daily affirmations, while gay, do actually help.

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I read somewhere or heard this about alcohol. Your mind has three aspects to it; id ego and something else. Basically one of those areas of the mind is like the little devil on your shoulder chanting "do it" the second one is the little angle saying "better not" the third is the one that weighs the two chants and decides which one to act upon. What alcohol does is removes the angel and leaves the devil (obviously to varying degrees depending on the level of intoxiation). The biggest problem in western societies is that people are so hung up on being sued and punished for an absolutely astonishing variety of things, it basically forces people to be rather conservative. I can't speak for everyone but thats the observation that I have about society today. When I was at school and I was bullied, I would be the one who got the blame... like wtf? same thing with the courts and laws! you constantly hear about outlnadish cases of apparent injustice and I believe it forces people to become unduly restrained. Key word there is unduly. But the other aspect is that when you have reached a state whereby you take responsibility for your actions, I see no reason why anyone should feel any inhibiting force telling them to play it safe. If I genuinely want to do something the last thing on my mind will be all the possible things that can go wrong etc. So essentially what I'm trying to say is alcohol gives you an opportunity to see who you are at the core. I've been drunk only a handful of times in my life and I only did it because I knew that when intoxicated your true self comes out and I simply wanted to experience it and get a better understanding of self. I rarely drink (and am basically never drunk) mainly because I dont like the taste of alcohol but Since I've experienced this blissful state I basically know what I'm working towards in a sense. So basically you know how you felt in those situations whilst you were drinking and now all you have to do is get rid of all the mental anxiety causing you to feel uncomfortable in those situations.

use it as a tool to keep them attached to you, when you open up a conversation, just let them know that you are past the point in your life where you want to have a drink, and kindly ask them to keep an eye on you so that you aren't drinking. of course, your presentation is key here with the wrong move it can make you seem like an alcoholic, but with the right move, it just might keep that one girl you had your eye on looking at you all night.

The worrying thing, is that after 2/4 drinks...I'm actually a master.

Its different for most, depending how many drinks you need to get to that level; considering alcohol tolerance. Most it'll be 2, some 4 etc.

I would HIGHLY discourage people from more than 4. At this point you are not a master; You feel like a master but are actually acting retarded or like a dick, to put it bluntly lol.


I would also recommend less drinks if you are a) a complete newbie or b)struggle in social situations...such as being shy etc. The alcohol will make you more confident, but I guarantee, you can say some very odd things.


A bit of evidence to add is the other week. I went out on a club warm up, had 4 drinks, was doing my 'own the room' routines. Opening everyone, getting rapport and then moving to other groups. Before too long, I was friends with LOADS of people and high social value. Great.

HOWEVER, I got bought 2 extra drinks (and as a part of one game, I was helping a girl with her disgusting drink ). You know how it is. Your offered a drink, and you know you shouldn't...but you think what the hell.

I was lucky, I kept my train of thought, and carried on per normal...and it didnt do anything negative (but I am experienced with the whole own the room, so i was on auto pilot). But, I did jump into a load of photographs with about 3 groups of randoms xD They all laughed and chatted, but I don't know how happy I am that my face is now on various facebook pages, probably labelled 'random guy'. xD

I'll make it work in my favour, 'Hey! Random guy?! I was 'Amazing guy' the other night!!', but I still feel a bit like, 'Ohhh damnnn. I was probs pulling a silly face' haha.

Thats the second thing about alcohol; It makes you regret.
The point is, I wouldn't care about those photos or conversations if I was sober-ish. Alcohol makes you regret - and you should never regret your game.

Hope that helps!

Riot.

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Using situational openers?
Throwing yourself in?
Able to flow conversationally from every good or bad comment they make?
That's the way its done.
The only game is natural game.

generally when i go out its not always to pick up girls, sometimes its just about having fun with my mates and that can involve stupid amounts of alcohol (droppin to your knees during the grease soundtrack is rather embarrasing even if its fun at the time)

if your going out specifically to 'game' id recommend sticking to 2 - 4 drinks as others have suggested, as much more can really impact your judgement and cause you to misread others with pretty bad results

however much you can drink without loosing control of your mouth is always a good amount... but i prefer to create a small group telling jokes, and funny stories usually helps build my general social confidence and rapport with people... so i usually memorise a couple of new jokes a week or work on a funny story and great for using at times when you run out of things to say you can just tell another joke or funny story if you can link it well...

Trust me man, you will not learn unless you do it sober. Sure, you might get better initial results after a few drinks but that's going on whatever skill YOU ALREADY HAVE. If your trying to improve you just need to hit set after set sober.

Check it out, what do you do when you're drunk that gets you better results:
1) your loud as fuck 2) your expressive - facial expressions/laughs/hand gestures 3) you kino a lot NATURALLY

So just do that shit consciously when you're sober, and after many many sets you'll be at the point where you can get WASTED and still pull chicks

When i was just a beginner, alcohol help me to think that i'm better but after some times i realized that i can do same things without alcohol. I think it helps in the beginning but it's no need to drink so much, it will make only worse and you will be unable to show that you can be a master.

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they say acohol is liquid courage. i think it's mostly psychological. you think that alcohol is this miracle "gaming enhancer". it's all inside bro, you just need to know where to find it without alcohol.

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Anyone can give up. It's the easiest thing in the world. To hold it together as you walk through this hell, when everyone else would understand if you fell to your demons, that is true strength.

Alcohol lowers inhibitions. We have inhibitions for a reason. If you wouldn't have said it sober, you're probably gonna regret saying it when you're drunk.

Alcohol and drugs are to be consumed by responsible people under circumstances that allow for responsible behavior. Using substances (even prescriptions) to overcome shyness is just asking for dependency issues, health issues, embarassment, etc.

cannabis. lol joke. find ways of releasing yourself - other from alcahol/

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