Dont Keep her on ice till then

then on tuesday late about 9 ish text her say summin like " Dont get too excited about seeing me tomorrow babe otherwise you wont get your beauty sleep" or summin stupid like that, and then tell her where you'll meet her and what time.

Promise you will let me know how it goes ok?

Totti

haha you got it bro, ill keep you updated
thanks for the advice

ok so heres an update, got the "Date" tonight

the past couple nites shes been texting me, we go back and forth
i get mixed signals from things like her playfully tellin me shes going to kidnap me, fishing for some compliments (where instead i negged her and then pulled back a lil with a compliment), her telling me shes glad she met me, and that shes been talking to her friends at work about me

so we discuss our plans for today which involves shopping at the mall, gonna be around 7, and we get in the topic of food, she tells me she likes italian food, i coincidentally name a place and shes like OMG favorite place ever! and im like if youre hungry afterwards, we can stop there and grab a bite
she goes "ummm i think thats pushing the date line"
so i say "no worries, if youre not comfortable its no big deal...however people who shop for clothes also eat, infact i eat several times a day, everyday" - kind of busting her balls about eating

so then out of no where she starts complaining about her current boyfriend and mentions the following
-hes away at college, never calls her, doesnt want her coming up on the weekends, says hes going to parties but doesnt want her to come because he doesnt know whos going to be there, hes been real shady, never has time to call etc

so trying to follow the boyfriend destroyer ideals, i didnt want to bad mouth him cause she would get defensive, instead i say, wow, sounds a lot like my last relationship with my ex, and then change the topic and make her laugh

i feel like shes going to bring it up again, in which case ill be like, (and tell me what you think of this guys...)
"well i dont know the guy, for all i know hes the dream bf every girl wants...you know, takes you on romantic get aways, nice dinners, etc (when in reality it doesnt seem like he does that at all...but with the boyfriend destroyers you take things to the limits and she realizes he doesnt do these things). then ill say, well it wont work between us anyway....i think youre too much of a good girl for me, ontop of that, id be annoying calling you every 5 minutes, getting mad if you go and meet people at parties etc (to make her realize these are things he currently does, but the problem here is that i dont know if the dude even does these things)

anyway....yea. so im meeting her around 6 30, gonna build up some kind, be the cocky funny asshole i am, and well see what happens.
any last minute advice or info how to handle the bf issue?

ok so heres how it went

met her at the mall, got a big hug, had a good time. mad kino on her part, she was all over me, she didnt bring up the bf at all, she told me she was talking about me with people she works with, she was touching me non stop, had a very very good time. built myself up even more with some dhvs which she was loving, and threw out a few negs just for fun but she laughed.
so its clear she likes me a lot, but last night she told me she was dating this dude for 3 years, but lately hes been a douche, and she really doesnt seem like the kind of girl who wouldve gone for me going for a kiss at the end of the night so i didnt try. im actually kind of glad about that...im not looking to just bang her and dissapear, so im glad shes a good girl you know? next time we go out well see what happens...
anyway, walked her to her car, got another big hug, she told me how much fun she had and wanted to do it again. when she got home she texted me, sent a few playful texts back and forth and stated again how much fun she had. gonna see her again soon

Goood Man! Sounds Like Its going well!

sorry only just replied back fella, but ive been busy with my own girl

yeah i know exactly what you mean when you say shes a good girl and you dont want to just up and leave, i feel exactly the same with my girl.

you did well destroying her BF, hes dead and buried now but next time take it to the extreme with the destroying, point out insecurites at the fact he'll think he'll never find another girl like her again etc etc...

and the fact shes mentioning you to her friends! but also if she says she wants you to meet them then a my quick tip is to disqualify say " ah i dont think they'll like me babe" this automatically makes you seem like a bad boy that all women crave same for the parents etc etc..

now my best bit of advice i can give you is to get on face book, leave some girls comments etc call in some favours whatever, makes you look like theres competition for you which will make her chase you more

next disappear for a few days, "give her the gift of missing you" do this a few times over the months, dont text her back sometimes, on the excuse you've been "busy" if she asks? "just things" she'll presume you have women chasing you.

keep up the kino my man your doing well

Im here if you need ANYTHING

Totti;;

thanks for the info bro

heres update #2

so the day of the first "Date" i asked her if she wanted to get dinner before we met up, she said it was crossing the "Date line"
im like no problem

so tomorrow i have date number 2 with her, first thing i say to her is were getting dinner and seeing a movie
first thing she says is sounds great!

so not only did she mention me to her friends and people at work, yesterday her friends from work took her cell and they were texting me asking me questions
so when i got her back im like so do i have your friends approval? shes like "i think they love you, i need to watch out for them now!"
haha ill throw out that bad boy comment next time

ontop of that, she texts me A LOT
its clear her bf is a douche and doesnt even call her, so this is like amazing to her having someone talk to her, but im not letting it get into the friend zone, im always dropping hits about being interested in her, throwing out negs, getting her to admit she likes me etc. she woke me up with a text, 2 hours go by of us exchanging texts, i had 30 from her!
i say "do i have another stalker on my hands?" she goes "yup"

i didnt want to rush a kiss on the first date cause of the bf issue, but if it feels right im goin for it tomorrow
ill update again after the date tomorrow

Ok boss, your doing well

also buddy sounds like your getting a bit carried away with constantly texting her, i know shes texting you but you have to tell her to text you later on etc cause your busy, she needs to know that you also have a life of your own, if your always texting and meeting up you'll become boring and predictable, trust me on this one.

Hope date #2 goes well

Totti

i agree with the texting, sometimes i just dont reply for a while and say i was busy with this and that

so heres tonight...
i meet her, open the door for her shes like omg your so cute, im like really? i dont know what youre used to but i was raised to have manners like this and do this every time (my own boyfriend killer i came up with) shes like well im certainly not used to this!

we go inside, get dinner, have fun, we order 2 desserts, i neg her infront of the waitress im like this is all for her she eats A LOT
she hit me and told me to shut up and started laughing

we go to the mall, walk around wait for the movies to start, were in the theater, shes leaning into me the whole time

so i walk her out, give her a hug, she holds it for like 10 seconds, then we grabbed each others hand and said bye and did the whole movie thing where youre moving apart and your grip on each others hands is getting less and less, and i was ABOUT to pull her back and go for the kiss but pussed out...it just didnt feel right

so i text her later on, we talk a lil bit, then i come out and tell her i wouldve made a move if she didnt have a bf (i said it more smooth than that)
she goes "i know youre so friggin tempting ive never met anyone like u im serious im soooo confused!" (score)
then she starts talking about when we met and me being in her life now "well its killling me!!! u come walking over with your good smelling self and great manners and its rough"
and "why do you have to be you" meaning...why are you so fuckin amazing!!!
she wants me
next time shell get me too!

Good man, I'm pleased its going well for you, just remember to keep kino ing her,

do yourself a favour now, disappear for about two days, dont text her dont do nothing that involves speaking to her or anything, this one will be chasing your ass soon.

get that kiss close soon

Totti8)

biggunz you're doing an awesome job dude. I'm in a similar situation and I will post it tomorrow. Totti has some great advice, listen to him!

you got it totti, im seeing her again tomorrow and going for the kiss close since im "so friggin tempting" lol

greenhorn post your story when you can id love to hear it bro

ill keep you guys updated after i see her tomorrow

Hey biggunz, I just posted my adventure.

my-first-day-2-attempt-greenhorns-thurs ... 31851.html

I'm gonna txt her today with something like "how was you weekend" wish me luck!

minor update:

so tomorrow, shes coming over at night to "watch a movie"
mmhmm...somethings going down haha

so it goes from...i have a boyfriend of 3 years i dont think we should go out, to sure id love to go out, to i dont think we can get dinner its too datey, to sure id love to get dinner and a movie, to oh lets watch a movie at your house in your room in the dark!!

damn this PUA stuff is gold

ill update tomorrow

hahaa your doing good man

get on that kiss close it then tease her dont push for sex cause its not on the to-do list attempt the kiss close and take it from there

also be the first to pull away, get up go get a drink for the both of you and resume doing whatever YOU feel like

Totti are you suggesting he pulls away to do something else while watching a movie with her?

biggunz post an update!