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damn the cube haha :D
do you really need a canned story to IMPRESS?

grab her attention by your body language, by how you stand, by how you walk, by how you look her in the eye and SMILE with confidence...

and ask for her attention... EXCUSE ME!!!

and don't say anything until she looks you in the eye..

and then tell her... I think you are very beautiful... I would like to get to know you... and hold the look and smile for 2 sec... and feel her reaction and her body temperature grow...

and then... hold out your hand and tell her your name... and let her enjoy the great feeling of being swept off her feet by a confident man :)

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My problem is that i have no social skills so when the community says you have to tell stories im sunk because i cant think of any stories at least one that would be appropriate in building attraction and comfort while sarging. I could talk about a rude customer at work but thats about it. Any suggestions?


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damn it...

brad... do something more passionate with your life...

spend weekends in a way that make you feel passion in your blood, re-discover enthusiasm for the things that you do or start doing things that make you enthusiastic when you're not at work...

make the lifestyle that makes you happy and girls will be happy when they are with you as well ;)

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remember to get creative with the openers.......... way too many women are calling dudes out these days....

ask them what they do for a living and when they return the question make up some funny shit.......

breakdance fighter
out work comedian
professional thumb wrestler
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or just have a creative lifestyle...

and be interesting by how you tell stories... and your general outlook on life...

for fuck's sake... seduction is personal development...
tell them about what you learnt...

teach them to develop themselves too...

it's not only about the approaching, it's about working with yourself and becoming a better person...

trust me, they'll be fascinated about it :)

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Avoid canned stuff if you can. Story telling with DHV spikes and occasionally running the cube game is all you need.

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Awesome thread, I really liked some of the openers. I have never heard of the cube or strawberry fields, but I can definitely see both captivating a girl. Not only that, but any response she gives you will be conversation material that SHE GAVE YOU. All you have to do is work it. The other thing about the cube is that I can practice it on females I already know whom I have no interest in so I can fine tune the delivery. Something else I wanted to touch on was the guy who keeps saying that all you need to do is be genuine, just go up to them and tell them they are beautiful etc. It works... for him. I think the main thing he is trying to say is back up your statements with confidence time after time. If a girl hears you say something and then looks at you giving off confident vibes she will take you way more seriously. Anyway, I'm really liking this site and I'm going to use the cube at my earliest convenience.


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the cube is an awesome way to get a girls attraction and interest.. i've practiced it on alot of my female friends. i started with 80% accuracy (i will ask them "out of 100% how accurate was my reading of you?) and now i'm up to 95-100%. at the end of the routine once they tell me what % accurate i am, i say "well then, if thats the case i think i deserve a kiss" and point to my cheek and smile. they gladly oblige. i used it on girls i just met on a recent visit to binghamton, and they ate that shit up. also at the same time, i take their hands and make them close their eyes while they tell me info and i do the routine. thus i can test compliance as the routine goes along.


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here is a great collection of openers:

http://ezinearticles.com/?How-to-Talk-t ... id=1426838

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Here's a link to all the infamous routines including the Fractionation technique of October Man and Value System Destroying technique. Some seriously powerful mental stuff here so USE IT RESPONSIBLY!

http://d.scribd.com/docs/1vs3uflfcoh5xfs83h7.pdf

Thank me later.

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...at the end of the routine once they tell me what % accurate i am, i say "well then, if thats the case i think i deserve a kiss" and point to my cheek and smile. they gladly oblige. i used it on girls i just met on a recent visit to binghamton, and they ate that shit up. also at the same time, i take their hands and make them close their eyes while they tell me info and i do the routine. thus i can test compliance as the routine goes along.
Nice, that's what I do as well. By making them close their eyes, you increase the mystery factor and by holding their hands you can kino. I suggest warping around her hand with both of your hands. That way, you subconsciously communicate that you can protect her which is an alpha male quality.

I havn't done the "give me a kiss" thing though, but that gave me an idea: when she goes for the kiss on the cheek, at the last minute you just turn around and go for a lip-kiss. What do you think? Will take some balls and prob best performed only if she's really impressed by the cube routine.

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My problem is that i have no social skills so when the community says you have to tell stories im sunk because i cant think of any stories at least one that would be appropriate in building attraction and comfort while sarging. I could talk about a rude customer at work but thats about it. Any suggestions?
There's a thread by Rye Lee in this same page I think that helps w/ story telling using Juggler's techniques. You can basically turn ANY EVENT in your life, no matter how boring & normal into a intriguing, mysterious & emotional story filled with fire & storm with the right techniques. It's a great skill that I'm trying to develop right now. The delivery is the most important aspect of it all, however, just as some people have stated above. Body language is what matters the most.
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Openers can be tough but it sounds like you have very solid inner game.

You can open girls with many things; I have regularly opened girls with things that sounds as outlandish as you're sexy as fuck.
That's gonna take some major vibe/confidence to pull off. One thing I'm worried about with this kind of openers is it could make you come across as sleazy? Perhaps not so much in the states or Europe but in Aus we have a lot of Lebnese guys who are extremely sleazy w/ their pickup (and very alpha as well) so perhaps this one only works for certain scenario's.

Before this becomes a massive enough block of text that it may get its own thread, I just wanna throw this opener I thought of out there for some feedback:

Alpha pose -> Alpha Eyecontact (does not have to be 3 sec but MUST be confident) -> Point at her and make sure she acknowledges it -> Point to the dance floor & accompany w/ a "let's go" sign with your head


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Personally in the matter I would open a 10HB with a neg. Get your one up on her instantly and let things roll from there. This way your a point ahead of the game and she has to really fight for it back. And who doesn't love having an edge?


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Drevon, if you TRULY aren't afraid to approach women, I've got the perfect openers for you.

Remember--they work wonders, but only if you really aren't afraid and are very confident, in other words, your inner game is extremely tight.

1. If she's checking you out (giving you IOI's,) get eye contact, give her a sexy smile and hold both while walking towards her and ask her "Why is it that the men always have to approach the women?" while giving her a look that says I came over here for a reason and we both know what it is.

2. If she's alone and not giving you IOI's, approach her from behind, walk past her and ask, over your shoulder "Are you waiting for someone in particular or just someone?" If she makes a smart remark like, "nobody in particular and also not just somebody," then counter with "Well, then you've found me--I'm nobody particular, but I'm also not just someone."

Remember--you need totally tight, confident game to pull this off!


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please help, tonight something really strange happened. I was sitting at a table with some of my friends, when I saw 2 HB8's who was trying to take a photo of them both, but I saw they were struggling, so I decided to go over there and ask them: "You look like you need some help with the photo". The one replied with:"No, we want to do it ourselves".

So afterwards I was wondering, "what did I do wrong?" and "Do you stay away from tipsy chicks?" Please help me with delema.


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Before I started studying PU I just asked a girl whatever came in my mind. It could be about what she is studying if we were in a college environment or an situational opener if at a night club. So I could open pretty much any girl. When I started to study PU I heard that doing so is AFC so now I have more problems with opening than before as I think of something cool PUA things to say. I think Carlos Xuma has said that it is not so important to use the Venusian arts method with PUA lines and so on but ask something what you want to know about her. So I would want to return to that old me where I don't use pick up lines but say whatever and can open pretty much any girl that way. Is that really AFC and if it is I like it still more as that opens girls so what do you think?


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@RailRoad--It has nothing to do with the girls being drunk. Yes, you did make a mistake and that mistake was two-fold:

1. Every time you approach a woman both you and the girl(s) need to believe that it is a wonderful opportunity for them to have a lot of fun and, if they make the stupid mistake of not taking advantage of this opportunity, you'll find plenty of other, better looking girls inside of 30 sec in the same location that will be more than willing to enrich their lives with your presence.

Going to them and asking if you can help them is even worse than asking "If I buy you guys drinks, will you let me sit here and bother you with AFC questions until you're finished drinking them?"

2. Don't ever approach a set and ruin the fun! Can't you see that they were having fun trying drunkenly to take pictures of themselves? If they wanted a serious picture taken, they would have taken an AFC, asked him to take a picture and then gotten rid of him immediately after.

The best thing to do is to raise the level of fun. How about waiting until they are finished and saying to one "Wow, you're really good at taking pictures. Can you take one of me with my cell?" Then give her your phone and, instead of letting her take a boring picture of you alone from the front, put your arm around her shoulder, grab her friend with your other arm and have her try to take a few pictures like that.

Sound too risky? Who dares wins!

@FNB--Do you want to know what AFC is? I'll tell you. AFC is caring about anything about your opener other than the impression that your presence makes on the girl(s.)

After the opener is long forgotten (2-5 min later,) the impression that you made during your approach (sexy and confident, funny and confident, cool and confident--make sure you're confident) will last for the rest of the relationship.

A little tip--if you were half as woried about your presence as the exact wording of your opener, a confident (you didn't mention any AA) guy like you would meet too many ladies in a night to remember all of their names!

Next time, put 90 % of your thought into correcting body language, smile, attitude, etc. and use the remaining 10 % of your time, energy, thoughts, etc. into thinking of something not-AFC to say. As long as its not AFC, nobody (including the girls) will care about what you said.


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