This seems to be my biggest hurdle. I can't seem to get past the big bulky amogs who join the set with their deep voices and attempt to take over the show. I would love to get into detail about specific situations I have been in, but would like to know some basic techniques for amoging.

I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered.

Thank you.

Take control and acknowledge him directly. High-five him right away and talk about guy stuff: "Did you see the fight outside?" "Do you go to my gym?" "so, who 'bout them Mets?" Whatever. Don't be afraid to be brash and give him friendly punches or slaps on the back. Once you've established that you're the man and the leader of the group, you can go into routines and he will be out of his AMoG state and you can blow him out.

yeah i understand what you're saying man... But im the the type of person that likes to give those slaps on the back, its just not my personality. What I am talking about is what should I do when a guy is trying to verbally abuse me. It's usually I havent said anything to him, he just wants to make himself look good.

i meant to say "I'm not the type of guy that likes to give slaps on the back and act touch." Maybe it's just some inner game issue I need to get over, I dont know.


In a situation where someone is trying to verbally abuse me, I know I should stand up for myself and tell him to stop. However, if I do that, the person tries to ridicule the fact that I am trying to step up for myself... What I am trying to get to is, should I resort to violence if someone keeps insulting me and refuses to stop, including when the blatantly make comments such as "What are you going to do about it"...

Any advice for this problem would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

firstly i dont think fighting is going to resolve anything. the best way to deal with a guy who tries to start trouble is to get him by himself and confront him. listen if while you are speaking or arguing he raises his voice match it. I am telling you guys like this ae jus wussies. they jus run their mouth because they are insecure and they want to show the gurl das there or their guy friends that they have power over somebody else. obviously having said that if you embarrase him infront of his friends it wont be gud. that is why you should confront him when he is alone.

if he makes fun of you, simply say "that was very funny john, but this isnt the riht time to joke, go find your friends." say the exact words and you will make him feel self concious with out an invitation for violance. if you use wat i jus sed i guarantee he will either try o be friends with you or live you alone all togather.

I hope that helped

im not sure about that retort. if you say "this isn't the right time to joke", the most obvious response will be along the lines of "dude your too serious, you need to loosen up" etc, anything like this will make you seem uptight and overly serious, without an easy way to talk your way back out.

Very nice.

I was just going to give him advice on dealing with haters... that covers the AMOG's end though.. good post. =]

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AMOGs are only bullies and only have influence if you give them the opportunity. Dont let them think that you are challenging them. If you start talking to them in a friendly way they will often open up to you and instead of having a cockblock, voila, you have social proof. And, since you were the one to change the masculine challenge into a nice conversation you are the more socially savvy guy! Dont let them get to you!

when he starts his becoming the amog and trying to take control just be like "why so serious!" with a smile and be like "light up man" be friendly about it . i would not try to provoke him any further.

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i like this when AMOGs wanna get violent:

AMOG: (showing signs that he wants to fight)
PUA: hahah, dude, are you like trying to pick a fight with me? hahahha.. ok ok hold up hold up.. wait a sec, we'll do even better.. first... we'll have an armwrestling competition.. then second.. we'll do one armed pushups.. and last..... POSE-DOWN!!

(then you start flexing and go "ladies?", and they start saying how you're so strong, and the AMOG looks like a tool.. you're tooling him, by making him seem like he's trying too hard to impress the girls by showing them superiority).
(credit TD)

or u could simply just say:
PUA: u dont get out much do u?

If you are a BIG guy.. I can see this working. Tyler... I don't think is the real deal.. a dorky looking dude like him... running a line like that.. would get you hit! Esp. from where I am from.

I like... U don't get out much do you?


Personally.. when someone... pulls the you want to fight line.. I just look at them.. like "Are you serious?" look at them like a little 5 year old acting up. Your value is far higher than theres.. ignore them.. and if they keep talking shit.. kind of look at the girls.. like.. "Is this guy serious?"

you will tool him that way.

and if he touches you... punch him in the throat or gauge his eyes out. (I take NO responsibility for any hard done to him.. if you choose this route). / LAST resort if he pushes you or w/e.


Keep it non-violent and out game him. Let his hate... raise your value!

It's almost to easy!! They do all the work for you.

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Make him look like a tool through intelligence. Simeply enough i started talking to a amog as soon as he came in he called me out that i was gay or something. I rolled with and said "If i was hitting on you, id have you in my van right now." Got mad laughs, and my target pulled me away and made isolating a joke lol.

Intelligence is by far the most intimidating thing, use it be witty and creative. If he decides he still wants to fight tell him to go outside and make sure you go out second, throw a punch as soon as he steps out the door. Most fights dont last much past 3 punches sooo yah cheap shot and dont stop till hes down. I would avoid this though fighting is stooping down to his level of stupidity.

I like that response to the gay comment! LOL

I'm going to remember that.. and use it.. when the chance arises.

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Its just so much fun and shows confidence, worst case he gets in your face cause he cant think of anything to say. Then you can make him look even more gay...

Seriosly though avoid fighting if possible, i was just saying worst case. Might be smarter sometimes to even walk away from the set than getting into a fight.

i think everyone missed the obvious question. why is he picking on you? is it after you've already approached the group? if so, you probably didn't approach him first. That's my question, did you approach him first? you probably approached the target first which brought up his defenses. Anytime there's an AMOG in a set, he needs to the FIRST one approached and payed attention to until he gives you the go ahead to join the group. The go ahead is, of course, indirect and subconscious, but if you disarm him properly then all this other stuff is negated and you don't even need to worry about it.