Thinking about asking a very attractive female friend of mine (at least an HB7.5 or to go out as a pivot with me. Thing is, I am not sure of one thing: do I make her aware of this scheme, or do I just act like it's any other time we hang out?

is she a good friend is she someone you wanna get with?? what does she think of you?

We have been friends since about 2002. For a long time I would have liked to have hooked up with her. Until about a month ago I even still held on to the hopes that this could happen, but lately I've come to accept reality: we are permanently stuck in LJBF land. But it's all good because, without even noticing it, she has developed into one of the closest friends that I have.

*shakes head* Sounds like you're still hooked on her. There are ways out of the LJBF zone. I've detailed at least two of them in my previous posts.

Yes, let her know what's going on, for a few reasons. First, it keeps her from thinking you've up and ditched her for some floozy. Second, she may be interested in learning how it's done. Girls LOVE the concept of Game, and when they are involved, when they know what's going on, they can be incredible in the field.

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Monkey,
A part of me IS still hooked on her, but you know what? These days it's a very minor part. But my illusions are more or less gone, and I look forward to being in a bar/club and not hanging all over her for the night. Plus it might spark a little jealousy in her when she sees me able to run game on these other women. After the stringing along she has done to me, she deserves to feel that way for a little while.

What kind of stringing along? Well, that is a very involved story that I am sure no one wants to hear all the details of. Let's just say that throughout the years she has hinted at the possibilty of us being more than friends...when I am with someone. Then, when I am finally single and could be had, the interest vanishes. Quite frankly I'm sick of that game. Although I'm not feeling bitter enough to cut her out of my life completely, I HAVE come close to doing so.

hahaha, well desire the reason her interest just vanishes when ur single is that, ITS A PROVEN FACT that every FUCKING woman around U wants U as long as YOU HAVE A GIRLFREND!
i no this sounds wierd as fuck, but its true man.
david deangelo even mentioned in his ebook attraction isnt a choice, that when a guy has a frend who has a hot gf, he thinks 'i want a hot gurl whos just like that' but when a gurl has a frend who has a hot bf, she thinks ' I want THAT guy ONLY'

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I have noticed this throughout the years. However, there is a LOT to this story that I am leaving out.

At any rate, I'm not sure how I should propose the pivot idea to her. I mean how do you tell someone "hey, hang out with me and pretend to be into me so I can hook up with OTHER females"?

Say something like "Hey, let's go out. We'll have fun, mack on whatever pretty meat is running around, it'll be a great time." Or whatever works for you. Or tell her about the Game, and see if she bites. *shrug* It works as well for women as it does for men. Better, even.

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Lord's got a point. Let her miss you. Heres how it works. Tell her to just run with you on this. Follow my lead so to speak.

You go out have a great pivot who does one of a few things.

First she gets you social proof and lands you some HB's .

Second she gets to see all of these girls get into you and start handing you numbers. Because she's a chick she'll start to think did i miss the boat on this guy.

Or she starts to think why am i not good enough for him. This will start the connection either enhancing your bond as PUA and Pivot or you'll get to bag her too.

Have fun rocking all their worlds

Yeah I like what you guys have been suggesting. Only thing is, now she has a boyfriend. (Awfully funny who it is too because it turns out to be this guy she used to make fun of all the time, called him a loser and all that. I just don't understand women.) At any rate, since she is off the market, I can't really entice her by saying we could both look for some prospects. Maybe I'll have to appeal to her kind, caring, generous side and tell her she could do it as a favor to me. Other than that I'm really drawing blanks on what to do now.

Im new to this forum but i have had experience in the pivot. My piece of advice is to bring this friend down to YOUR level (your equals)...at the moment seem likes your getting tied up in her threads. You mention her new bf and how you dont understand women? Look at it this way, shes now dating someone who she once considered a loser so it goes to show how easily a girl can be persuaded! So as far as your question...i would say something along lines "Lets go out tonight and you can make me look good". Your her friend so hell who really cares what game is being played on her...make the gal feel good and things will go smoothly, and like several others said your friend just mind get a new persuausion...but you could care less right???

Cheers,
Seph

Just... ask her.

Say "I was reading somewhere that guys who go out with a hot girl on their arm do a lot better at picking up. Think you'll be my wingman for the night?"

You could always neg her out...

"I was reading somewhere that guys who go out with a hot girl on their arm do a lot better at picking up. I thought you might be hot enough - so how about it?"

(keeping in mind I'm a terrible negger)

- Dex