Hey Guys,

So I'm new to this forum and I wanted some advice on a situation I'm in. There's this girl who I approached a few weeks ago and we really kicked it off. After a little flirting a few days later I called and asked her out. She said she had just started dating someone else, but I'm not sure if that was true. Anyways, I saw her again at a party last night and we talked for a while. We had a great time. Anyways, when I tried to escalate kino, she gave me the LJBF talk. She said she really liked me and by sense of humor but she didn't see me like that.

In general, I'm good at approaching and building comfort but I have trouble building sexual attraction.

So my two questions are, how can I avoid the LJBF talk and establish early on that I'm sexually interested in a girl? And, how can I recover with this particular girl? I know most PUAs will say to forget about her and move on, but she's definitely the type of girl I'm looking for.

I see you say you are good at approaching and comfort but you are missing a big part in there. After opening run attraction material and start escalating kino right away. Then throw in a SOI at the end of attraction and then work comfort.

I can only go on what i see but it seems as if you are opening then going right to comfort, which is a great way to be thrown right into the LJBF zone.

Don't fall into the trap of believing this girl is the one for you, especially since you hardly know her. There are a bunch of girls that are out there and ready to be met.

Urbane,


I will try to answer your question with other questions.

1. Did you qualify her sometime in your game?
2. Did you build kino early on and progressively raise it?
3. Before making a move did you Kino ping her or tested with a compliance test?

I see what you guys are saying. I guess I'm waiting too long to initiate kino and by the time I get rolling I've already dug myself into a hole.

I guess you have to be willing to lose it to get it so I should just start building sexual tension from the start.

Are there any good methods for building kino as soon as you meet a girl without coming across as creepy?