i have heard many a time a girl saying that she is often attracted to guys with girlfriend.therefore does anyone think it would be a good idea to tell a girl that you have a girlfriend.iv tryed it once before and i got a snog and a phone number.however im not sure if this was because it made me more attractive or because it made me feel more comfortable while talking to her.any thoughts?

This is called preselection, and it's even more powerful if you show up at the club with a girl, or a bunch of girls. Girls want to see other girls reacting well to a man. If she doesn't, she has to determine whether or not he's safe for herself. If girls act well around him, and he demands their attention, other girls want to be near him and find out what qualities he has that makes him attractive to those girls.

So yeah, saying you have a girlfriend can help you out. Having your girlfriend slime all over you is, strangely, better.

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I would say be careful because it could backfire and they might think you're just a cheating sleeze...

but you never know until you try it right? Hahah

[quote="C-DUB"]I would say be careful because it could backfire and they might think you're just a cheating sleeze...

but you never know until you try it right? Hahah[/quote]
who dares wins, lol.

dont't tell her that you've got a g'friend. I won't work and she will think you're a womenizer and maybe cheet on ya g'friend.

I also believe that it is better 2 enter the room with a bunch of girls then tell her that you've a girlfriend

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Hmmm, I dunno about telling her you have a girlfriend. Maybe DHV with a cool story recently with a chick you have been hanging with?

But damn, walking into a club surrounded by 4 woman gives you unbeatable social proof! It's ridiculous how much it helps and makes every other girl walking past look at you.

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There is a couple of different ways to proceed away with sedcution, you can break down in 4, 8, 11, steps, whatever...

In this case Im going to break it down in just two BROAD steps for you, keep in mind that these two broad steps contain many other litle steps, and that they overlap into one another, here we go.

1) Defense Levels down

2) Seduction

You can't seduce a woman unless her defense levels are down first, or you could, but it's riskier and generally it takes more work

Monkey said something very intelligent that Im afraid some guys here are ignoring, the concept of "Pre-selection", saying you have a girlfriend makes you a non-loser, walking with two girls or more in a club makes you not only a non-loser but a very attractive person, in other words "pre-selected"

Women are constantly hit on by guys, therefore they dont even bother to get to know every single guy that approaches them, the "pre-selection" (gf or having girls around him) moves you automatically to the attraction phase, 'cause she assumes that you must have something that she's looking for.

Now, to AMOG's case, it all depends on what SOI you made

If you made an SOI of friendship, then she probably gave you her number as friends, if you made your SOI of potential lover, then she probably she felt more attracted to you.

I remember one litle quote from Style's book "The Game" that really hit in once I internalized it

"I got good in the game, because I understood not to trigger a woman's shutdown or flight responses"

It doesn't get any better than that.

Being "pre-selected" automitcally kills any type of shutdown response

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Being seen with girls and showing up with girls is different than having a girlfriend. To sum it up the most simple way, dont say you have a girlfriend cause you may be labeled a creep. Being with girls and talking to other girls is different than having a GF in your targets eyes.

People seem to already have gotten much of this, but I would highly recommend not saying you have a girlfriend. Sure it makes you more attractive, but to them it will now just be a game to sort of see if they can get you, but won't actually go through with it all the way. Most girls I know won't sleep with a guy if they know he is with another girl. THey get too guilty about it, and it does show that you are a bit of a jerk for doing so. That's why for DHV ex's make for the best story. Also, a girl on your arm is indeed the best, but is nothing like mentioning you have a girlfriend in my opinion.

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Actually no, and sadly enough there is only one girl who I haven't cheated on, my current girlfriend, before that, cheated on them multiple times, yes, Romeo what a shame

And ALL of the girls knew i had a girlfriend, they just rolled with it

You just need to find them

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what did seem to trigger the same "preselection" "defense down" reaction was this one time in whole foods, i sat down next to a 4 set of hb7's and started laughing out loud while looking at my blackberry. I went into an opinion opener... "hey guys, wat does it mean wen you a girl texts u that she enjoys being friends but wants more-even they have a bf"?

Then I went into this whole things about she's model but very insecure, blah, blah blah... this went off very well. Defintely got the attention of the prettiest girl in bunch. Perhaps we can come up with different ways to create a preselection illusion????

Yeah, definitely

Pre-selection is a way of DHVing

There is 4 ways to DHV:

1) Told DHV
When you yourself tell the woman or women you're talking to qualities about yourself without coming as arrogant, you can talk about an ex gf, your job and so on, just MAKE SURE you mention it slightly,

By far, this is the riskiest way to DHV and should only be used if the girl is EXTREMELY into you

2) Learned DHV
This is when you indirectly tell a woman qualities about yourself, indicating why she should be interested in you, call it story telling, cocky & funny, teasing, and so on

3) Observed DHV
Again, similiar to DHV, your actions speak for you, except that this time you are not in a straight interaction with the woman, instead with the people around her

Being around with girls is a PERFECT example of Observed DHV

4) Biased DHV
Biased DHV is when a friend of yours or a friend of hers or even better a person that she just met that night, and that is not so close to you, says good things about you

Examples:

A good friend of yours says good things about you, how youre a fun guy and so on, this will make you pre-selected to a certain point

If a friend of hers says good things about you, it will have a bigger impact in her pre-selection, duhh it's her friend!

If the owner of a restaurant knows you and just met her that night, and he says good things about you, THATS EVEN BETTER!

See where I'm going?

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good stuff romeo!

i will say that having a girlfriend definitely attracts chicks. i've been having a long distance relationship with a girlfriend who has been studying abroad in china for the last year. when girls hear about it -- it's an instant conversation piece. just as romeo said above, having a girlfriend displays DHV; it shows you can commit and meet the needs of a woman.

however, i wouldn't recommend saying you have a girlfriend -- especially if you don't. you may come across as a: 1) cheater if she finds out you do or 2) liar if she finds out you actually don't.

if you're going to have a girlfriend, be honest and true to that girl. you're best off demonstrating value in this way by showing up somewhere with other girls.

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Great topic guys, In my expearence its best not to say you have an actual 'girlfriend' but constantally 'refer' to the lots of different women in your life, 'your sister', 'the 'French' girl you used to date', your female friend 'katie', you cousin 'Jane' who you are really close to and fond of. This works really well, it communicates you're a cool guy who has lots of women in his life and having great girls around you is nothing new. Women buy into this shit, its draws them in and creates intrigue and attraction. Because 'THEY' are nothing special, just 'another girl' in your life, it send the messege your 'NOT' mr. desperate.

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