holy shenanigans this is one of those "what were you thinking"

Ah be lucky your atleast at the point where somone is willing to have sex with you.

Im stuck here figuring out my own mess.

I was an unsocial type guy, I guess like you- minus the girl. Anyway the first sarge at the gym today I literally scared her away. Hahaha

Its hard starting from scratch

we went out for ice cream hung out in my car a long time, i have a really nice car so its a common thing i like to do with girls, ya know enjoy each others company. so I kissed her. I fucked up, i've been focusing soo much effort on kissing routines and how to actually get that first kiss that I never even peeked at a book about how to kiss or practiced on a pillow or anything. i'm appearntly awful at it. she will probably never talk to me again. so I did not received the f-close because i'm not a good kisser. I could have seriously had sex with a girl in the back of my car if I JUST FUCKING LEARNED HOW TO KISS!

appearntly when your a bad kisser it really leaves a mark afruefaiegaidsjklm.fqwijoefkmldsierkdml


i'm really sad right now, guys. i'm just mad at myself for overlooking such a major detail I kinda figured kissing was something we were born knowing how to do. i'm sad. i hope this is a valuable lesson to everyone.

is sex something i learn how to do also?

here's the afc move of the day:
she asked to go home so i apologized that i was such a bad kisser. DAYYYYUM.

How old are you and how old is she? If neither of you is very old, then you have the ability to play the, "I'm not very experienced, but I'm a fast learner. You should show me how you like to be kissed" card. Hell, that pretty much should work at any age. As long as you are confident about yourself and don't end up all mopey because you aren't skilled yet.

Unfortunately sex is another one of those things that you typically aren't gonna be great at from the start. Some of us have inherant natural talent, but most people don't and it takes a few attempts, mixed with some encouragement and pointers from partners.

Don't beat yourself up, just man up and take the initiative to learn. Perhaps she assumed you're not a virgin because you act like you're not and so she figured that you should already be good at kissing. Let her know the truth and she'll probably be interested in teaching you.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

i'm so happy with myself right now! i did play that card (not rehearsed naturaly), but I didn't do it like you said. I said hey i will tell you the secret your favorite magic trick if you teach me how to kiss. she said she would, but i really never got around to it again ( I know weird right, but my car battery died because i left the lights on yada yada i always enjoy it when things go wrong.). we are both 17. yah, basically i'm known as a pimp, i'm always talking to girls, always the center of attention just like a good pua, so it could easily be assumed that i'm not a virgin. but However I did tell her i was not kissed many times (i didnt know what to do) and told her i've only had sex once. so she knows i'm very inexperienced, just not the truth.

it was really weird though, i tried like 4 times and each time it left a noticeably large scar its kinda hard to explain, kisses mean a lot i guess, i'm a guy and i could kiss a wolverine and it woulnt make a difference.

thanks, rye!

yah yah, its just i'm afraid to kiss close now, i have a second oppertunity coming up sunday (different girl) its just i dont really wanna fuck this one up. so i'm just going to buy a shit load of lollipops and fucking go at it.

DON'T try to bribe her. Just tell her you want her to show you how she likes to be kissed. Teaching you is the reward in itself. Bribing her makes the whole thing no longer attraction, it's just a way of her getting something. You want her doing it purely because she wants you to be a better kisser.

The first tip my first girlfriend gave me (I was accused of being a terrible kisser, so I know where you're coming from) is that you need to make your lips firm, yet supple. That means when you kiss, don't just mush your mouth up to hers, your lips shouldn't be rock hard, but they should be fairly firm to press up against.

Practice puckering your lips in an 'O' shape, so that you can just barely fit your pointer finger in to about the first knuckle. Now keep them like that and push the tips of your fingers against them in the shape of an 'O' as well. You want to be able to put a decent bit of pressure against them, so that they don't flatten right out, while still giving a little bit. Give it a try for a bit and you should get an idea of what feels decent, what is too soft and what is too hard. That's a good starting point for when you kiss a girl.

Don't start using your tongue until you have been kissing her a few minutes, unless she does first, or it gets really passionate. Don't open your mouth up really far, or keep your lips completely puckered. You open and close your mouth a bit at first and then depending on how things are going, it will end up varying a bit if she gets into it.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

oh well, its my bad then... I dont think this girl is interested in me anymore, if she is than i'd be extremely surprised. but its better than okay, this girl has taught me more than about 10 other girls have. I'm getting better and i am getting noticable results javascript:emoticon(''

i love your advice, your probably the only one on here that would help teach me how to kiss, thank you.

Off Topic: I really like the honesty of these forums.


Be confident. She wanted it..you're doing SOMETHING right

you could always use Mystery's kiss close. if you feel like she wants to kiss you simply ask "Would you like to kiss me?" three things are going to happen.

1. she says yes. if so then kiss the girl.

2. she says maybe. then you say "lets find out" lean in and kiss her.

3. she says no. then you say "I said WOULD you like to, not COULD." then in a suggestive manner say "you just looked like you had something on your mind"