Enter a group with a couple of men and more often than not (unless they're both complete AFCs) you can determine within seconds who the AMOG is. You move in and try to shift the frame, and take over as AMOG. Try as you might to be subtle, lets say the incumbent picks up on this. Now it's a battle of wills. Good PUAs might not have a problem shifting and stealing the set, but if it turns into an obvious pool of conflicting testoterone, do you bounce? Really if it's that hard to take the spotlight, you wind up giving the man more attention than the other obstacles and the target. Women might pick up on this vibe and be turned off to the idea now seeing you as a possible intruder and creator of tension. How to deal? Buying a round for the whole table is still supplicating in a sense and still DLVs. Walking away has the same effect. Of course the obvious answer would be "There are plenty of other sets, plenty of other women. Move on." But what if you're hellbent on saving face? Any skills or advice?

Point being, how do you deal with an AMOG who realizes you are trying to AMOG?

I love it when someone comes into the group. If im interested enough I will try to AMOG but I do not allways win. Learning experiene indeed. Hell, I just got back from going out and I AMOG'd some guy who i thought was with the girl I wanted, he left about 5 mins later back to his hostel... poser.

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