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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:42 am 
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I got a question about a shit test.
I met this Dime (HB10 but I prefer saying dime) and things are well BUT, she keeps throwing me the same shit test over and over. Its a "god" one... it wouldnt be so bad but she keeps sending me mixed hints about it too. One conversation she talks like she couldnt get down with me because Im not all into church, then next she acts like it wouldnt matter if I was Al quiada... Any ideas or wisdom on this?
Because this babe is smokin hot and super cool other then the god thing, Im lost on this one.
(dont want to start a religion war on here so Im not saying my personal stance)

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This one is tough im not sure on what angle I should replay to it, I am an Atheist and my brother is a priest and i know a lot about a religion, i studied bible and read tons of books ;/ back when i was really religious.

Stay on neutral side of both of you, because religion might be a big part of her life. Have your own set of beliefs and dont let her convince you or try to change you.

I would say something like "Everyone has right to their beliefs, but religion nor church defines if the person is good or bad, only the person and his actions speak for himself/herself. Both Christian or Muslim is capable of loving or hating. Some people believe in God some believe in nature spirits (Buddhist) some dont believe in anything but i believe in one thing."

she will ask what?

you: I believe in myself, i believe that human determination and strong desire to succeed in life its what really important. I do believe in Karma but i do not want to waste my time going to church to pray to statues, I rather take that time to better myself and influence others by setting a positive example.

Or whatever else you want to say, i dont know your believes for example, people are not religious but they do believe in god, some believe in religion but dont believe in god etc.


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yeah good call and I have said something to that effect.
I basically told here that I do belive in god but dont feel it neccisary to go to church,ect. to praise and all of that. She accepted it and really hasnt brought it up since.
Only thing is now... she still talks some of that super religion stuff and thats whatever but now... God brought me to her... WTF kind of thing is that to say to someone?!?!?!?!?

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this is hard,,
because the more religious the chick is, she will be defensive to chemistryy
i know this bcuz my family is hardcore Christians and i personally studied alot about Religion. Personally, i dont see Christianilty as a relgion, its a lifestyle so u get stuck with it. Any other relgion seeks peace and inner goodness but unlike other relgion Christians rely on God and JEsus to receive the internal peace and goodness so if ur gonna pick up religious chicks, then u gotta seek relgion perspective of a Good game..
i know this

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Start hanging out with another HB, ideal would be an HB7. And make sure the HB10 sees that. It's gonna be a lot of fun, and you'll get what you want.

BTW, I subscribe to the belief that HB10s don't exist...


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I don't think this is tough at all. She's testing to see how strong your beliefs are. State them, and stick by your beliefs, but DO NOT try to change her beliefs or ridicule her.

Personally, I believe that there is a god, but I am an existentialist by nature so my purpose is to find my own truth rather than believe what is told... and that is what I would tell a chick if I was in your situation.. if she asked if I believe in God or not.

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Not tough at all. Easy flirt.

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One conversation she talks like she couldnt get down with me because Im not all into church, then next she acts like it wouldnt matter if I was Al quiada... Any ideas or wisdom on this?
Because this babe is smokin hot and super cool other then the god thing, Im lost on this one.
(dont want to start a religion war on here so Im not saying my personal stance)
If you know how to tease her and push-pull, you could just as well be Al-Qaeda and still lay the girl! Whatever your religious belief is, you don't have to blurt it all out to her (and I trust that our fellow PUAs won't start a religion war on these forums, that's not why we're here... maybe we should just have one BIG thread where we all get our beliefs out in the open so it's out of your system and you don't have to worry about unconsciously blurting it out to the girl...)

The best thing to do in this situation is to say that you believe in taking control of your life, i.e. whether or not there is a God, I believe in experiencing the world and learning all that there is to know, discover the truth rather than let someone else (whether a priest or a rabbi or a Mullah) define it for me...

Now this answer works well as a general answer.

If you're not Christian, don't change your answer just to please the girl. Unless you're ridiculously good at scamming people, in which case I'd say go for it. Hell, just tease her saying she's just too much of a nun for your taste. "You and I would never get along. You're just too much of a good girl for me. I mean, your name should be Ethel or Prudence or Chastity... We could even go out and buy a little nun's outfit for you... or maybe a bonnet and shawl, depending on what's in fashion this year. I mean, it's not easy to have fun not having fun. It's a real art!"

Just don't overdo it on the shyer christian girls...

Plus, the main thing here is your game should be SOLID, so she is attracted to you despite the fact her family might see you as a "dirty heathen", and also I would show a bit of interest in her religion and maybe even "play dumb like a fox"... she will try to get you interested in Christianity and you can use this to gain rapport and build kino (imagine what it would be like to FEEL another person's soul... and we ALL know where a woman's soul resides lol!). The more she feels inclined to save your soul, the more opportunity there is for attraction - just let her chase you and backwards-rationalize the rest. Christian girls are ADDICTED to converting people, and your soul will be like bait for her. Never give it to her, but always dangle it just barely out of her reach...


Also if any guys here have ever wondered about this, some seducers were in fact religious. Casanova was a catholic (he even tried to become a priest, but they wouldn't let him due to his "reputation"). Rasputin was Russian Orthodox christian, though his particular sect was not so orthodox! He subscribed to the idea that the MORE you SIN, the more chance you have for salvation because God supposedly takes pity on His sinning children who suffer for their sins... and he was VERY good at showing women how to sin. A sort of "pious hedonism" for the LAYpeople :P Rasputin in fact used religion and spirituality as a means to hypnotize and seduce women... and the fact that he did it with that big-ass BEARD makes him even more impressive. Although his method of seduction would probably be considered a form of 'rape by deception' in today's puritanical legal system...


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if you want to go the religious route on her you could tell her something like...salvation is not through the church but through the relationship one has with god and that alone.


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yeah i agree with the last post. Just start tossing the bible back at them. It requires you know the bible of course, and know it well, but you can pick apart most "christians" pretty good using the good book, especially the wacked out fringe groups.

you can utterly destroy catholics.


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I never get into religious discussions with people who are religious. Except when I am in the seduction stage. Before that, I avoid it completely.
Show some interest in her religion if you have to. Ask her questions as if you actually gave a f**k. Like, so your entire family is religious then? Or you dont believe in evolution then? And always state that you respect her faith and opinion but that you personally are a practical person that have trouble believing in anything you cannot see or touch.


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I have actually been in a situation like this before. This was way before my PUA days. Here's how I handled it and it actually worked out really well. The only reason it worked so well and still does is because it's the truth.

Her: So where do you stand on religion and God. Are you religious?

Me: Well, the truth is, when I was very young I was raised as a Catholic, but as I got older and my parents were always working, they encouraged us to go to church. We would usually go with people my parents trusted, but they were not all Catholic. Some were Baptist, Protistant, Methodist and so on. I dated some girls in high school and they all had different beliefs and one was even Mormon. So truth be told I have struggled with the concept of religion my whole life. Trying to understand it and come to a conclusion about "who's beliefs are right" and "who's beliefs are wrong" has somewhat torn me apart and taken my interest in religion and torn it to shreds. Am I spiritual? Somewhat, sure. I sometimes feel like there's more out there, but no matter what I do it seems like I'll never really find the truth anyway because of my background and exposure to so many conflicting beliefs. I just got tired of having so many people push their beliefs on me so I trust that if God is out there he won't judge me by what building I enter, but rather by how good of a person I am.

This aleiviated the pressure quite a bit. It allowed for me to give an HONEST answer (which in cases like this is most often the best policy, you don't want to get stuck in a situation where you are trying to cater to her beliefs by adopting them yourself and then being called out later because you weren't being honest.) and gave her something to think about at the same time allowing her to understand how I felt about being pressured by religion.

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