Hey new guy. Just wanted to say hey. And welcome. I'm new too. But I picked this up just like Niel. The Lay Guide. But I'll tell you what: Inner game is crucial. Structured game (i.e. what you learn from books, seminars etc.) is important, and you have to work your natural talents in as well. Find out what you are natural at and find out what you need to work on. Then improve your natural talent and build on your weaknesses with structure and learning. In regards to books. I find that Robert Green has provided me with great reading material. The Art Of Seduction is great, but it comes off as dry when you try and read it at first. Others include The 48 Laws of Power and the 33 Strategies of War. These are books that help you deal with social challenges. If you can manipulate your surroundings and bend any situation to your advantage you will be able to seduce like no other. Don't get me wrong, most of what he writes about is dealing with ass holes and difficult social situations that mean you having to deceive and manipulate people. You never want to deceive the woman or manipulate her. You want her to come to you, but if you can grasp the fundamentals of what Rob is trying to convey, you can apply the basic techniques to deal with interrupts and annoying cock blocks. So have fun out there and remember: Always see yourself as the prize. Rejection is our way of improving. Good luck!

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How about the "rules of the game" also by Neil Strauss...a lot of useful stuff inside, even if you're not a newbie anymore...

also like this article:

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Man I'll tell you what, The Rules of the Game are a LIFE SAVER. It is sheer genius. I followed all the steps, every day with the "Little White Book" : Master the Game in 30 Days and it did wonders for me. No such thing as AA anymore for me. The exercises work. I especially had a lot of success with the vocal portion which taught me how to slow down my speach and make it more clear. "The Little Black Book" : The Style Diary is a must keep, pocket guide. Several rules and stories to go off of. Of course you never want to carry it with you when sarging, but keep it in a pocket during work, sneak a read here and there. Keeps you fresh. I have to say though and this is funny, I bought this two book set at Barnes and Noble and this was after I finished The Game. They kept it behind the counter, you know, like a porno mag or something at a quicky mart for adults. This old lady looked at it, looked at me, rang it up then proceeded to say as I walked out, "Good luck."

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Im pretty new to PUA and idn do pickups really work i find them kinda corny any advice??

Hey i was wondering if you could tell me where i could purchase on of those white books you speak of, i think it would help.

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