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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 8:13 pm 
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i've noticed that when i approach girls, i tend to open the sets with relative ease compared to what i've read and heard from other guys. i either dont have the girls put up their bitch shields, or i just dont notice it, but i cant recall ever really having a girl putting up a bitch shield since i've started gaming.

anyway, its probably a very stupid question but here it goes anyway:
am i right in assuming that because i'm fairly good looking, girls are more receptive and friendlier when i approach them then they would've been if i wasnt decent looking?

its been on my mind for some time now and i finally decided to ask some opinions on this.


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It probably doesn't hurt :?
Comon sense really :shock:


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it helps a lot dress goodddddddddddd


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Looks do help, but what I think is making it easy for you is confidence.

Good looking guys generally have been more social and outgoing in the past, and also have had more success. Success breeds success. I also never really found it hard and rarely got shut out, even when just coming up and saying 'hi.' Guys care more about their genetic looks than women do. Walking in to a set when you have a high self esteem and self-perceived value, the woman picks up on this and assumes you must be high value.


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John Alexander says that looks are only like 20-30% of how women rate attraction but then again he also highly recomends learning how to dress properly and workout regularly.


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This has been covered in a much longer topic but i shall re iterate the main points.

Good looks give the advantage in attraction, I am good looking and i notice it with girls. They will be giving me EC and smiles before i even say hi. Opening is easy because if i am dressed well they are getting approached by some1 they find attractive. Its like a HB8 opening you, u will listen to them.

Looks do however have a downside, when trying to come into comfort they start thinking "if he talks the talks and looks good, why me?" and start to question ur motives. This is easily fixed by making her qualify lots. Make her give reasons why she deseves you and it'll all be good.

If your really hot, ur game can have some slips and she'll let you off, cos ur hot. But thats only really noticable if ur more than a 9...

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ok, makes sense now... i noticed that its easy for me to attract them even if i make some pretty serious mistakes, but i tend to bomb out every now and then in comfort. think it might be because i'm not qualifying them enough.
thanks. i'm gna work on that.


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I once had a girlfriend tell me that she initially rejects the good looking guys due to the preconception that they're going to be players. She was on guard all the time because she was attractive, and assumed they were after her. She usually receipted better to the mediocre looking people who opened.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:36 pm 
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Good looks are composed of 3 parts as far as Im concerned.
1. Clothing
2. Health indicators
3. Peacocking

1. Everyone can change this
2. Everyone can improve this
3. Good looks are just another way of peacocking, you stand out because you look, well... good. Is it more effective than having lipstick on your collar? I dont know...

BTW have you been gaming hot girls? Like models? Thats the ones with the highest bitch shield!


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i only consider it gaming if the girls are hot... there is no game if she's HB6 or less, its too easy. you can pretty much pull full blown AFC and still do ok.
but to answer your question, yes, only hot girls. why move down when you can move up?

i think another possible reason for not noticing or getting bitch shields might be because i have a lot of friends, and i'm always guaranteed to run into another group of friends whenever i go out, so i have a lot of social proof here. also, i always have girls with me, so preselection probably also plays a big role. its weird how you realize shit when you take time to try figure it all out and have some input from other guys who actually know what they're talking about. i thought my game was getting pretty tight but turns out it's mainly external things that make it so easy for me. fucking sucks.


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i only consider it gaming if the girls are hot... there is no game if she's HB6 or less, its too easy. you can pretty much pull full blown AFC and still do ok.
but to answer your question, yes, only hot girls. why move down when you can move up?

i think another possible reason for not noticing or getting bitch shields might be because i have a lot of friends, and i'm always guaranteed to run into another group of friends whenever i go out, so i have a lot of social proof here. also, i always have girls with me, so preselection probably also plays a big role. its weird how you realize shit when you take time to try figure it all out and have some input from other guys who actually know what they're talking about. i thought my game was getting pretty tight but turns out it's mainly external things that make it so easy for me. fucking sucks.
now this maybe an afc thing to say, idk you tell me, but I think that is seriously limiting your choices, I for one would rather have a 6-7 with a good personality and ne able to relate to them than just gaming a 9 just to say hey I hooked up with a 9 and she had the persoanlity of a wet dish towel

but thats just me, we're all in this to get chicks we percieve as good looking

as for what Ezoghoul said about the model's and their bitch shields the man couldnt speak more truth, theres a girl living at my dorm who is offered to be in playboy and has done modeling, etc and her bitch shield is gigantic she walks around putting people down, and throwing around the fact shes a model but as soon as you assert yourself as the alpha and her status doesnt matter to you, she calms that right down and turns into a sweet insecure little girl, its really weird how that works


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now this maybe an afc thing to say, idk you tell me, but I think that is seriously limiting your choices, I for one would rather have a 6-7 with a good personality and ne able to relate to them than just gaming a 9 just to say hey I hooked up with a 9 and she had the persoanlity of a wet dish towel
i get what you're saying man, but im not really looking at meeting cool girls at the moment, i just want ass until im over my ex. i know i'm limiting my options but i feel that only gaming 8-9-10's is helping me through my learning curve a lot quicker than it would if i spent the time on a 6.
thing is, there are beautiful girls everywhere here in South Africa, every second girl is a fucking 6 or 7, so i still meet plenty of hot girls and a lot of them are actually pretty cool because there are so many of them.

and a wet dish towel can still be good for something =P


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now this maybe an afc thing to say, idk you tell me, but I think that is seriously limiting your choices, I for one would rather have a 6-7 with a good personality and ne able to relate to them than just gaming a 9 just to say hey I hooked up with a 9 and she had the persoanlity of a wet dish towel
i get what you're saying man, but im not really looking at meeting cool girls at the moment, i just want ass until im over my ex. i know i'm limiting my options but i feel that only gaming 8-9-10's is helping me through my learning curve a lot quicker than it would if i spent the time on a 6.
thing is, there are beautiful girls everywhere here in South Africa, every second girl is a fucking 6 or 7, so i still meet plenty of hot girls and a lot of them are actually pretty cool because there are so many of them.

and a wet dish towel can still be good for something =P
I respect that dude, and heck, if its helping you through the learning curve quicker by all means i think we all should do it, but best luck to you man, be sure to let us know what worksand what doesnt on these 9/10s
dont be greedy and keep all the secrets to yourself :wink:


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