hey guys this is my first post and wanted to say ive read heaps of good advice on these forums so wanted to thank everybody for starters.

My question is how to start and continue conversations. Not only for girls but for me its people in general as well. I find it hard to talk bout anything just to avoid the awkward silent moments. At first meeting someone there is plenty to chat about getting to know each other, however, after this period of time I struggle to make talk with the person. I could write a book of names where we have great time talking at first only to have the relationship end because we ran out of things to say. This is a major sticking point for me and all help would be greatly appreciated

away from game for a second. this is more than game. its interaction in general. list in your head what you know about the person. if you know absolutely nothing - then theres everything to find out. talk about friends, family, beliefs, hobbies etc. if you know the person well - then theres always something to talk about,
V1V

Good stuff. Anyone have anymore advice cause I could use some help with conversation.

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I have this problem too from time to time. Its more of a self-image and self-confidence thing, I believe... at least from my own experiences. When I am feeling out of place (as you very well may feel when trying to chat up a hot new girl, or just talk with a new acquaintance), I tend to get stuck. When I am feeling in my element, conversation just flows..

Now sure, you can turn that on its head and say I feel in my element when the conversation flows, because it is flowing.. but I am pretty sure its inside game that is influencing things most of the time.

Obviously, relaxation techniques and just building yourself up mentally are good first steps. But how to deal with the other people? Well, if you are feeling tense or anxious, chances are they may feel slightly awkward as well. Use humor to break this ice, then go from there.

With girls, what I tend to do is two-fold. First, as always I am avoiding the boring interview questions by fielding crazy answers that hopefully make her laugh. What do I do? Oh I rob banks to pay for my shoe addiction, or I am that guy who has to go the North Pole every summer and give the polar bears their flue shots. Whatever. Now, if she laughs about it, we can have a crazy conversation about polar bears. During this conversation, I will be making mental notes about things she says, looking for the next random direction I can take the conversation. Basically, I want to mirror her thoughts. It builds attraction, but it is also easier for me, which relieves stress and keeps me from looking like an AFC.

Second, I look for clues about her that we can talk about, things that are interesting to me, and which get her to qualify herself as well. So now we can also have a serious conversation about something meaningful, which will always come naturally to you as you are interested in the first place.

Just remember to keep interjecting humor depending on the environment, dont wanna get way too stiff at a club or anything, but its good for the girls to see you have intelligence as well.

Thank you V1V and daggaz they were very helpful replies

Like I said in my first post, this not only applies to the PU Community, for me and im sure many others, its people in everyday life. Even for family members, etc when its my sister and I in the car, I stuggle to make talk.

V1V your post was helpful, I just wanted to ask, how can I ask questions to find everything out? For example it would sound like an interview or interagation if it's simply:
Etc
- Where do you work
- How many sisters and brothers
- What country

And so on

From many past experiences upon meeting women (and people in general) after asking questions it goes downhill. How can I make talk about everyday life to everyday things to allow the conversation to flow for hours on end?

Thanks everyone for reading my long and dull post and appreciate the time taken to read it.

In my opinion it depends, can either be inner problems (shyness, missing confidence, etc) or outer problems (no idea WHAT to talk about).

I am the type of people with outer problems. There is just not so much stuff to really talk about in my life. And this problem leads to silence in a conversation where I just start to tax my brain to find a damn topic. But it's suicide, my brain is filled with thoughts like "why's there no topics!?" and it prevents me from getting a clear mind.

I really like talking and joking. With a friend I can talk hours and hours about PUA. If I was interested in cars and motorcycles I could chat forever with other friends about that, but unfortunately it's more than just boring for me
I was into computers and programming, and I was able to talk weeks about it with those who share these interests. But in my society it's a huge DLV to even mention programming/computing, even if you make it sound interesting.

Then, some days ago in school we calculated lottery stuff. And I came up with "What if you won the real thing? What would you do with 130 million €?" And I could have a talk with my friends about it for more than half an hour. Everything people mention then you can use as a new thread to another discussion. Later I asked my gf the same and we could talk 1 and a half hour about it

I will investigate such questions further, everybody can identify themselves in such situations and keep up a nice conversation.

But in general I would advise you to get a range of different hobbies to have some stuff to talk about... I do inline skating (if it wasn't starting to become cold now..) and go to the fitness centre, and I start to go climbing.
But I miss some wicked activities which stand out. It's just lack of topics to talk about

for me today, i was in a guitar store, acros the store sat this hb 7.
i figured if she is in a guitar store, she must like music and guitars.
so i just asked her about the store etc

ok so im really new to this whole thing and my question is on the same topic.
What do i do after i open a girl or set? Like i get some good ioi's but i dont know how to go from opening to starting a conversation.

ex. 1
chick bumps me with a bike, i make fun of her for her lack of bike riding skills. she laughs and stops. i use Styles jealous girlfriend opener. we talk about that for a while. Then i run out of material and say i gtg.

ex. 2
i was at a bookstore, open a 3 set. I tell them that im making dinner for a friend and that i need a females opinion on what to make. We talk about food for a while. i try and neg my target. But then the conversation stalls, and i say that im just gonna take her out to dinner somewhere and leave.

any suggestions?

not interrogation?

say open ended statements, not questions (juggler method)

its true that open ended statements is the way you talk with close friends

basically these three subjects you have arose here - and all subjects in general - if your still in early stages of the pickup in question YOU should be speaking for about 70% of the time. as you get into more of the comfort phases rather than the attraction phases it should be more 50 50.
For a3 (if you know what this is - if not pm me) yeah sure ask about them. it shows your interest. OR you talk about them if its in the comfort phases or early attraction phases. You can display your higher value. talk about your family and say how much you care for them - and then ask about hers in the passing. that wont sound like an interview. thats called a conversation.
same with work - talk about your work WITH FEELING. your an interesting guy. let her know that. and then ask about hers.
What do you mean by country lol?
V1V

Cheers for the numerous replies

Is there any Ebooks that discuss creating conversation? If not what books or other reading material discuss this in depth?

Saying open ended statements, so that would be.. instead of asking what sports do you like, it would be, the football match was really good last night? I am very lost, anyone please explain how to do it?

V1V, in the example where you said talk about your family etc how do you start a conversation about that in a non-interragating way? I appreiciate your lengthy reply but I still do not fully understand what you mean. How do you go about conveying yourself as a interesting guy? How would I bring up work and talk about it with feeling?

When I said what country I was meant to say 'so where abouts are you from' which I found to be quite good because they usually talk about how they grew up, how they miss their country (if overseas) etc.

Again I want to stress that this doesnt only apply to the game but people, friends and family in general. My social life is extremely low due to this. For example today I bumped into a couple of old friends and struggled to make conversation. It was just "Hows work?", "Hows life?", "Whats new?", "Hows Uni?". To just make it more frustrating a few girls came over to sit down and yet again I struggled to make conversation.

So pretty much I dont know how to socialise! I would blame my parents for being over-protective however in the end 'You cant blame anyone bout yourself'

Anyone with advice I would very much appreciate it.

Thanks to everybody for reading yet again a long and dull post and im thankful for all the replies already

Check out the new audio Sinn posted the other day, How To Not Run Out Of Things To Say. It's on the same page as his Game Acceleration Doctrine. I'd post the link but each time I use the URL tags there's nothing in the post.

Thank you very much danieltx, however Im having tu finding the link since im new to this, is it okay for you to post it?

Also, while on the topic, is there a written version of the audio availiable?

Thanks for the reply

I can totally relate because I am getting over the same problem. In the PUA community, the goal is to not be the average guy and as a result not talk about the topics the average guy would talk about. In your head (or in mine anyways) you constantly doubt what you are going to say because you feel it isn't interesting enough, doesn't display enough value, or is just plain AFC. The reality that i have just discovered is...IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER WHAT YOU ARE SAYING! If you appear confident/congruent with what you are talking about and you display good body language then you can say just about anything. If two people on the street meet for the first time, they know absolutely nothing about one another giving them a wide range of things to talk about.

One idea for not running out of things to say:

Read alot. Books, news papers, magazines, etc. It will give you something to talk about be it The Mr. Gay UK cannibalizing his boyfriend (i dont suggest actually talking about this one) or asking her if she's read the book you are reading (followed up by a brief summary if she hasnt.)

Of course, if you are illiterate, you are kinda screwed. Actually, if you were illiterate, you wouldnt be reading this anyway.